[audacity4blind] Re: Adjusting the volume of part of a track
- From: Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:00:02 +0100
| From Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
| Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:40:05 +0100
| Subject: Adjusting the volume of part of a track
> Thanks Robbie. That's the way that I use it too.
>
> Anyone else care to comment?
I use Text Envelope for two or three adjustment pairs, but I'm
sighted, looking at the Timeline to figure what I want.
I prefer the Text Envelope to the real Envelope Tool as it is
less "fiddly" and I can enter the exact volume change required
rather than guess it.
And I can use Text Envelope for a fade from a point by a
certain number of dB, so don't need to have the "Fade by dB"
plug-in as well.
Gale
> On 2 August 2012 16:18, Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Steve!
> > I have used Text Envelope several times, but never for multiple
> > adjustments. The aim was always to fade the volume to a certain level and
> > fade up again after a certain amount of time. If I had to do more than one
> > adjustment on one track, I'd rather apply Text Envelope repeatedly, than
> > calculating the values for several adjustments and entering them in one
> > long command line.
> >
> > Cheers, Robbie
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve the Fiddle
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:59 PM
> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Adjusting the volume of part of a track
> >
> > Thanks for the comment Robbie. This is exactly the kind of user feedback
> > that I need.
> >
> > "Text Envelope" is a plug-in written in the "Nyquist" programming
> > language. There are a lot of constraints to what can be done in the
> > interface of a Nyquist plug-in, so there needs to be a careful balance
> > between providing enough features and flexibility without becoming too
> > complicated.
> >
> > In the recent project where you needed to use "Text Envelope", did you
> > need to use multiple volume adjustments over time, or was it just that you
> > needed separate control of fade out and fade in times? I'm just trying to
> > get an idea of how much control and flexibility is needed to make it both
> > user friendly and useful.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30 July 2012 19:24, Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi Steve!
> >> I use the Text Envelope occasionally. For a simple voice over I use
> >> Auto Duck, but recently for instance I recorded a song and I wanted
> >> most of the tracks to play low during the last verse. Without Text
> >> Envelope I would not have been able to do this. Only I whish the
> >> parameter input could be a little mor intuitive. I know you want to
> >> provide an option to do several volume adjustments over time, but I
> >> think the classic usage is fade to low and after a while fade to
> >> normal again. Why not introduce a "classic" option with input boxes
> >> for the fade length and the target DB value .
> >>
> >> Cheers, Robbie
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve the
> >> Fiddle
> >> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:43 AM
> >> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [audacity4blind] Adjusting the volume of part of a track
> >>
> >> Audacity has an "Envelope Tool" for smoothly adjusting the volume
> >> level over time. Unfortunately this tool is not accessible for blind
> > users.
> >>
> >> I have written a plug-in that aims to make this feature available to
> >> VIP's and other non-mouse users.
> >> The plug-in is called "Text Envelope" and is available from the
> >> Audacity
> >> wiki: I'm not sure if direct links are allowed on this mailing list,
> >> but if they are, this is it:
> >> http://wiki.audacityteam.org/w/images/0/02/TextEnvelope.ny
> >>
> >> My questions are:
> >>
> >> 1) Is this type of feature of interest to anyone?
> >>
> >> 2) Has anyone on this mailing list used the text envelope? If so, how
> >> did you get on with it? Are there any improvements that you would like
> >> to suggest?
> >>
> >> 4) Does anyone use other methods or techniques for adjusting the
> >> volume level of a track over time?
> >>
> >> 4) Is there some other approach to adjusting the level of part of a
> >> track that you would like implemented? For example, would you like to
> >> be able to make part of track go quieter and then return to the original
> > volume?
> >> Would you like a fade effect that allowed fading smoothly to a level
> >> other than silence?
> >>
> >>
> >> If you would like to try the text envelope but need help installing or
> >> using it, please ask and I can provide detailed instructions.
> >>
> >> Steve
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