[audacity4blind] Re: Audacity v GoldWave

  • From: Andrew Downie <access_tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:59:21 +1000

Hi Sameer


To make the recording, I did the following. Opened Audacity and opened Reaper. I think I could have set up two instances of Audacity, but this approach was quick and easy.


I have an Allen & Heath ZED-10 mixer (which I love). One of its really nice features is its switchable recording bus on each channel. I sent the output of both Audacity and NVDA through the internal computer sound card into a line in on the ZED-10. By pressing or releasing a button, I could have those outputs recorded or not. When I wanted the screen reader to be recorded, I depress the button and when I just wanted to hear it myself I released the button.


I have an AKG headset with attached microphone. While not a brilliant mike, it is convenient.


Some parts of the recording had variations in levels, which I corrected somewhat. I used Peak Compressor, for which I paid the princely sum of around $20 several years ago, to further improve levels. I also added a little reverb with one of the Reaper effects.


For your amusement, when I was going through the Audacity settings output was announced as the USB codec. It was at that time and when I listened to the recording nothing I recorded in Audacity came through. I then switched input to the internal sound card and did that part of the recording again.



Andrew




On 22/07/2017 6:53 PM, Sameer Vasta wrote:


Hi Andrew

Do you mind telling us what setup you have which provides such wonderful audio recording quality?

Sameer

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*From: *Andrew Downie <mailto:access_tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:09 AM
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*Subject: *[audacity4blind] Re: Audacity v GoldWave

Damien, Christina, Sameer and anyone else who is interested in a 15 minute intro to Audacity. I have cobbled together this recording <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v56cn4>. It is about a 22mb download. I have inadvertently left out a couple of things that could have been included, such as x (version 2.1.3) and shift-a (previous versions) to stop playing and put the cursor at that position. Undoubtedly the other resources already mentioned will be far more comprehensive (and more polished). My hope is, though, that my effort may help people who are having trouble getting started.

I have not included anything on multi-track recording. If people are positive about this attempt, I would be happy to do that, along with useful facilities such as labels.

Andrew

On 21/07/2017 8:02 AM, Andrew Downie wrote:

    Hi Damien

    I can’t do it right now, but perhaps later today (Sydney time) I
    will try putting together a quick audio demo of navigating and
    editing in Audacity.  It is certainly a different beast to
    Goldwave.  Once you get your head around how to beat it into
    submission though, it is a very obedient beast.

    Andrew

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    [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Damien
    Sykes-Lindley
    *Sent:* Friday, 21 July 2017 12:47 AM
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    *Subject:* [audacity4blind] Audacity v GoldWave

    Hi there,

    As you all know, I’ve been following and, where possible,
    contributing to some of the threads of this list for a good while
    now. Practically, I’ve read the majority of the Audacity manual
    and tried some basic effects processing. However I’m still
    struggling with Audacity’s concept of editing (I.E. making
    selections). I see references in the manual to the playback cursor
    and editing cursor but I haven’t yet found out how to work these.
    I may be missing something but the manual, to me, seems a little
    erroneous and contradictory – the editing section states that the
    way to select regions with the keyboard is through the toolbar,
    but under the accessibility section it states that toolbars aren’t
    accessible with screen readers. Yet seems to me that it is
    possible – otherwise this list probably wouldn’t even exist.
    Having said that, as far as I am aware I have never used a toolbar
    before, so I was of the impression that they would never be
    accessible. Or maybe I’ve used one and just not known it for what
    it is. That’s the problem with screen readers.

    Also, I feel I would benefit from either some audio demonstrations
    or transition guides – Previously my knowledge has been confined
    to toys like Sound Recorder and tape decks like GoldWave (whose
    effects processing is, in my opinion, at best suspect, and rather
    limited), so I’m trying to learn as many as possible so that I
    have the best possible variety of effects and editing techniques
    at my disposal.

    Having looked at the documentation it seems that Audacity is a
    multitrack rather than a single track editor. Though the concept
    is quite straight forward (you can edit multiple tracks in one
    session or in one project), the way this is done is entirely alien
    to me. I feel like I’m transition from tape machine to a mixer. I
    might go further and say studio, but no. I think I’ll leave that
    honour to Reaper. That one went way over my head!

    In any case. If any of you have used GoldWave and can give me some
    kind of sense of how Audacity is different, both in terms of usage
    and concepts, that’d be very helpful.

    Also, does anyone know what the status of the NVDA addon is? Even
    if Audacity is accessible out of the box (just as GoldWave is),
    NVDA has an addon for GoldWave that provides keys for announcing
    information (selected channels, markers, lengths, peaks etc). A
    similar addon for Audacity would be very useful, in my opinion.

    Cheers.


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