Hello Andrew,
Its bed time here on the other side of the world so I will try this in the
morning. I’m actually working with both pre recorded and home recorded tapes
so I’ll try this with both. I’ve actually come out with a couple of rather
nice sounding recordings. I’ll let you know about the amplification tomorrow.
Thanks much.
Steve
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Hi Steve
The computer is correct when it identifies your Behringer as microphone USB
audio codec. My ten channel mixer is reported as such. The computer does not
care how many inputs the device has. It is a generic USB device and is
reported as such.
And yes, adjusting the recording level in Audacity is the same as adjusting it
from sound card settings.
My only concern is your report that you are getting a reading of 0db clipped on
Audacity’s level meter. You really do not want clipping and having the level
at 10% suggests a very hot signal coming in.
What result do you get if you select a track of recorded auio and select
Amplify from the Effects Menu? If it offers you a value of anything but 0 that
would be encouraging.
Are you copying from prerecorded cassetts or are these recordings you have
made? I ask because prerecorded music should have a fairly consistent level.
On the other hand, recordings made by us mortals can vary markedly. Just one
loud sound is enough to upset the apple cart, as we are dealing with peak
levels.
Ultimately, does the recording sound as if it is distorting? If it sounds ok
to you, that is what counts.
Andrew
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Andrew, Gene and all,
I went to the sound card in control panel and in the properties of the device
the level is the same as I set in Audacity. The computer is referring the
device as:
Microphone microphone USB audio codec
Shouldn’t it be something like line-in USB etc…?
Steve
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There should be a setting for the actual recording device if you select it, tab
to properties and press the space bar. As I recall it's a button.
Then shift tab once, right arrow through the options and see if one of them is
levels. I've almost never done this, I don't have such a device but I set the
volume on a friend's USB turntable. Since the device is considered to be a
sound card by Windows, I would expect it to have settings such as levels that a
sound card would have.
Gene
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Hello Andrew,
Yes, the slider is the record level slider in Audacity two tabs past the record
meter. The Behringer has a volume control but I believe its strictly for the
monitoring headphone jack. No, my tape deck has no controls for the line
output volume. I’m getting a fairly decent sounding recordingwith the slider
in the 10 range but no activity in the meter.
One thing I’ve noticed is that in the record device options in preferences my
only USB option is Microphone USB Audio codec. Is that correct that its
recognizing the Behringer as a microphone? Thanks again for the assistance
Steve
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I think his problem is that he cannot get the level below 0. Steve, some
questions.
The slider of which you speak, is that the one in Audacity? If so, that should
reduce the recording level coming in. Does your Behringer have a volume
control? If so, pull it back a long way. That will reduce the level of the
signal coming into Audacity. Does your tape deck have a way of controlling the
volume coming out through the cable? If so, that is another way of bringing
back the level.
Andrew
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Hi Steve
Oh my gosh, that question is way too complex for me, but I am sure someone else
on this list will be able to answer the question.
If I could venture a guess though, I would think that a reasonable level for
the gain slider for your application would be dependant on the volume of the
tape that you trying to record from. And I am also just guessing now, but try
between minus 18 and minus 24 DB and let me know what the results were.
Regards
Samer
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Hello Sameer,
Thank you so much. I’m up and running now. My test recordings sound much
better with this device. I’m still having trouble with the meters. No matter
what I do the recording meter says 0DB clipped. I’m missing something. I have
the recording slider down to 10. With a device of this nature what would be a
reasonable range for the slider. Thanks again.
Steve
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Hi Steve
Fortunately your issue appears to be rather simple to fix.
*. Go to the utilities menu in Jaws then select sound cards.
*. From the Sound cards menu select the soundcard that you use normally (note
please don’t choose the windows default sound card). From the 3 options that
are displayed on your system, it would appear that the middle 1 (speakers /
headphones high definition codec)is the 1 you need.
to choose.
That’s all. Your system should be up and running.
Hope this helps.
Please let me know what happens.
Regards
Sameer
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HiGene,
There must be another setting we’re missing here. In the Sound Card sub menu
of Jaws Utilities I have three options:
1. Windows default sound card- this one is checked
2. Speaker/Headphone ( dt High Definition audio codec )
3. Communication Headphones ( DT High Definition Audio codec
When I plug in the device I get a fourth option:
4. Speakers ( USB Audio codec )
When the device is plugged in and the speech is gone the Windows Default Sound
Card is still checked.
In JAWS 18 Help there is no Sound Card Topic. This must be a common issue with
these devices with a simple solution but darned if I can find it. Thanks for
your’s and anyone elses help I can get.
Steve
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Here is a link to the information.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/JAWS/jaws10features
Once on the page, use the virtual find command to search for the word sound and
you will be right at the start of the section.
Gene
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Thanks Gene, I’ll start looking into it. If anyone has this info on the top of
their head I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Steve
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All such devices and equipment that connects for recording sound is seen as a
sound card by Windows. It becomes the default sound card. You need to set
JAWS to only use the Internal soundcard, or whatever sound card you use, no
matter what Windows classifies as the default sound card. As long as the
device is connected, Windows uses it as though it were a sound card and makes
it the default sound card. Someone will very likely tell you how to tell JAWS
to only use one sound card. If they don't, I'll look up the information. But
there are likely people who already have it handy.
Gene
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Hello,
I recently purchased the Behringer u-phono 202 USB audio interface for
recording records and tapes to my Windows 7 laptop. When I plug in the device
my screen reader which is Jaws 18 is silenced leaving me helpless. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
Steve