Hi Gary
It definitely says “Selection tool bar.”
I can’t replicate it, I just know it happens now and again.
When you say “move out of the track panel and back,” how would I do that?
I almost never do multi-track recordings, so going from one track to another
wouldn’t be an option.
Thank you.
Don
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: odd problem
Hi,
I think this message is coming from the JAWS script. When you press [, or
anything for which JAWS says the position, the script looks for the "real
window" of the focused control. (A real window is the first containing window
with a title.) From there it searches for a descendant window with the control
ID of the selection start control. It then reads the text of this control and
re-formats it to be more speech-friendly. If the resulting value is empty, it
produces that message. The message is spoken by JAWS, so it doesn't appear in
a dialog. The condition that we thought would cause this is if the Selection
bar is not displayed, thus the wording of the message. The Selection bar is
the toolbar at the bottom of the screen with the edit boxes that set the start
and end of the selection time range. (You enable it by going to View >
Toolbars > Selection Toolbar and pressing ENTER to check it.) However, I have
seen this happen when the toolbar is in fact displayed. I have been able to
fix this by moving to another track and back, or out of the Track panel and
back-- I don't remember which, but it is a simple set of focus changes. I
don't know why this happens, and since I don't know how to make it happen and
have been able to fix it easily I haven't tried to figure out what's happening.
Note that even if this message is generated, the key has already been sent to
Audacity, so the selection start should still be marked. I'll think about some
additional information to display that might help figure out what is going on.
Can you consistently reproduce this? If so, I might make you a special version
of the script to try to figure out what's happening.
Thanks for the report.
Gary
On 9/22/2017 6:08 AM, David Bailes wrote:
Hi Don,
I don't know where the error message is coming from when you press the left
bracket key. Next time it happens, can you copy the text of the message dialog
(just press ctrl+c), and paste into a message for this list?
David.
On 21 September 2017 at 19:09, don wardlow <wardlows97@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all.
This will take a while, so get comfortable.
My computer has Windows 7, the latest JAWS and the latest Audacity (though I
don’t know its number.)
The odd thing it does doesn’t happen every day, thank heaven but when it does
it’s a pain in the neck.
I record radio broadcasts and later, when time permits I cut out the
commercials to only hear the parts I want.
I import the MP3 file into Audacity. I start to fast forward through to locate
the first commercial. When I find it, I hit P for pause and then try to hit the
left bracket key.
At this point I get an error message that says
“To use this feature you must enable the (Something) tool bar.”
Sorry, I didn’t copy down the message last time I heard it.
Anyhow I don’t know how to enable any_ tool bar including whatever one I am
being prompted to enable. So far, my only recourse is to get rid of the AUP
file, restart the computer, then import the original MP3 into Audacity.
This takes time.
If anybody else has a problem like this one and knows an easier answer, please
let me know.
Thanks as always.
Don