Space bar is not correct. I said to use the context menu key when on the icon which is how to right click it from the keyboard. Space bar is left single click when working directly with the system tray. Enter is double left click. As I said, in general, when you want to open a menu for a system tray icon, right single click it by using the context menu key. Gene ----- Original message ----- From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "mbern6516@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:36 PM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: recording computer sounds and voice at the same time To gain access to the options I mentioned in my previous email message, while on the desktop, I shift-tabbed to the sys tray, then used the right cursor arrow key to get to the speaker button. On this computer, its called speaker / headphones, and pressed spacebar, which took me to the window containing the track bar slider, mute speakers / headphones, mixer, and IDT High definition audio codec buttons. Oh and I forgot to tell you this in my original email, but I'm using window-eyes version 8.4, If that makes any difference. Mike Rochester, NY. From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 6:07 PM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: recording computer sounds and voice at the same time Are you working directly with the system tray or are you using the system tray dialog your screen-reader provides. Pressing enter may have different results depending on how you are working with the system tray. In general, to get a menu with choices, right click. If you are using the system tray dialog, tab to the right click button and press the space bar. If you are working directly with the system tray, use the context menu key to open the menu. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "mbern6516@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 2:16 PM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] recording computer sounds and voice at the same time Hello,Not long ago, someone from the list gave me instructions as to how to get audacity to record both my computer sounds and my voice at the same time. The first half of the directions said to do the following: Press Shift+H to open the Select audio host dialog Down arrow to choose Windows WASAPI Shift+I to open the Select device dialog, then choose the option with "loopback" in its name. Now you can record sound from your computer, but not the sound from microphone. I've figured out that part, apparently I have to have Audacity running in order to do the above. However, the second part of those directions is a bit confusing. The second half of the directions say: From System tray, choose speaker and press Enter Choose recording devices within the menu. Choose the microphone you want to record from within the list, and press the properties button. Ctrl+tab to the listen page, and check the Listen to this device checkbox and press OK. Now you'll hear your voice from the speaker/ headphone, and you'll be able to record it, including computer sound The trouble is, when I press the speaker button on my sys tray, I don't get a list of microphones installed on my computer, and there's nothing that mentions recording or properties. Instead, I see the following: track bar 76 of 100, (this apparently is a slider of some sort and its a dialog. Then there's a button that says mute speakers / headphones, followed by another button called mixer, then another button that says IDT High definition audio codec. If I press tab at this point, I'm wrapped back around to the first icon, which is the track bar, that's set to 76. But there's no recording devices menu. At least not on my computer anyway. I'm sure that messing around with all these settings is quite easy, assuming that one knows what they're doing. But I'm not one to mess around with my computer's settings. I'm running a desktop pc with windows 8.1. Mike Rochester, NY.