[bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)

  • From: "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:40:22 -0500


Jackie,

You have a few holds for on the checkout list.  Did you forget about them?

Sue S.


-----Original Message----- From: Ixchel, Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:46 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)

Hi,
I would also like to proof for whoever needs it. I like reading
mystery, fantacy, fiction and historical fiction. I like reading a lot
and sometimes I am a little OCD when I proof. :)
Now that summer is coming I will have a lot of time to proof! This
helps me both read and acquire credits so that later I can donate them
since I won't need them for a while.
Jackie

On 6/3/12, Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, Sandi, well I like to proofread fiction with the exception of
horror. I've read some science fiction, I've done some anthologies
(three), and I seem to be in a historical fiction or historical mystery
niche right now. I like mysteries, fantasy, romance, etc. I wouldn't
mind doing something which makes me laugh. I don't think I'd want to do
something horribly violent (especially if it's gratuitous). As for
language, I don't like to use strong language, but if I find strong
language in a book (you know the words) I will proofread what's there.
With regard to non-fiction, I can't say I've done much of that, that is,
textbooks, books with charts and tables, etc. I haven't done poetry or
cookbooks (this last would be really hard because I wouldn't be able to
check for accuracy. As for my procedure, if I proofread a book for you,
you can count on me reading every word and also corresponding with you
should I have text questions. I don't have your email address but I
wouldn't mind doing stuff for you if I found it interesting. If you wish
to judge what I've done, you can find some stuff I have proofread and
give it a look. Regards, Kim Friedman.

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:05 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)


Hi Everyone,

I just saw Lissi's great e-mail on more work for everyone, and here's a
plan
I think could work for that:

When I came on board a year ago, I thought I was going to be a proofer.
I
mean, I'm blind, and that seemed like the best way for a blind person to
go.
However, I immediately met Valerie Maples and Lissi, and they encouraged
me
to try scanning.  Well, that made sense to me, because I'd been scanning

books for nearly as long as scanners had been accessible.  I determined,

since I love scanning, to be one of Bookshare's best scanners, and to
work
with proofreaders who actually read the books I scanned and would put
the
very best book possible into the collection.

The way I've gotten enough work to keep me busy is to tell Valerie and
Lissi
when I'm running short, and to let the list know that I have a library
card
from my local library which gives me access to books throughout the
country.
Each one costs $1, which I gladly pay for the privilege of scanning it
into
the Bookshare collection.  I turn in only Excellent scans, so even a new

proofreader should be able to read through the book and make only a few
changes.  I do insist that you read the entire book, though.

The other thing proofreaders and potential proofreaders can do to help
expand the list are the things Lissi and Valerie have done--research
books.
Find those you'd like to proof that aren't in the collection, and let a
scanner know you're interested.  But when you want a book scannd, we
need to
know the exact title, exact author's name, ISBN, and publication date.
That
saves ever so much research time for us.  We'll scan faster if you find
and
send us copies of the books--but if you can't--I know many of us are
working
with zero budgets--let us get them from ILL or some other means--then
we're
working together.  I have come up with maybe ten books to scan, but I
work
with wonderful proofers who are constantly looking for books for me to
scan.

Let's all team up and put lots of really good volunteer books in the
collection.  When you see a HOLD, respect it.  When you find a book
you'd
like, put it on the wish list, or contact someone you know scans and ask

them to scan it and have you proof it.  Then you'll have your own holds.

There are plenty of books in the world to be done by volunteers.  But
everyone needs to take an active role in locating, scanning and
proofreading.  Find your niche, and work as hard as you choose.  And
welcome
aboard to new people.  I'm amazed at how wonderful this job still is
more
than a year down the road!

Sandi

----- Original Message -----
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks


Dear Kim and Booksharian Friends,

Kim, Since I'm reading this thread out of order, you may have already
had
this suggestion. To produce an I umlaut I delete the i, and press the
control and shift down together. As I hold them, I type the colon Then

release all three keys and type i. when you backspace your
screenreader
should say i umlaut. This is with Word 2003. Soon I'll have to make
the
leap to a more updated word, oh dread!

Good luck!

Many thanks to Sandi, and to those of you who advised her about how to

get
Strawberry Season back for me. Thank you to the volunteer, too, who
released it. I've proofed Books one and two in this wonderful trilogy
and
had bought books for Sandi to scan and for me to proof the third book.

I'll be getting on it tomorrow once I've checked in Mr. Monk on
Patrol,
from a wonderful scan done by Jamie. Just 30 pages to go.

Bookshare has the Monk novels and they are laugh out loud funny. I
hope
many of you will give them a try. They'll brighten your reading
landscape.
Jamie has been consistently faithful seeing that they have been added
to
the collection. She's a marvel of generosity, scanning many books and
putting holds on the ones she knows some of us care deeply about.

As for Island Wife, The Wind From the Hills and The Strawberry Season,

by
Jessica Sterling, they are fabulous historical romances with deep
character study and very concerned with family dynamics set in the
Scottish Hebrides near the end of the nineteenth century. They are
intelligently written and the type of series you can lose yourself in.

They are not formulaic, pot boiler, cookie cutter romances. The
transcend
the genre in general.

I fear we have a shortage of scanners. It takes much more work
tracking
down books that aren't in the collection yet, and we all have to be
willing to do the work knowing it may be replaced by PQ versions of
our
books, but I love the process of making a proof as error free as I
can,
love the reading of the book as I proof and therefore still feel my
efforts were worthwhile even when a book I've worked on is replaced,
though occasionally, the volunteer copy has better navigation and
other
perks for Bookshare readers than the PQ books.

I've never seen the check out list as short as it is now. Is it
because
Bookshare is emphasizing textbooks and working harder at training
volunteers who can describe graphics? Since we blind readers were so
active in helping Bookshare during its start up years, it's sad to see
our
role diminishing.

Since I love hunting down books to add, there is no shortage for Evan
to
scan for me to proof as well as for other generous scanners to scan.

If there is interest, I have about 20 books I'll be happy to give to
anyone who has the time to scan them in the next month or so. I don't
want
to proof them and don't want them returned. I'd just love to see them
in
the collection and if there are willing scanners, their presence could

plump up the check out page a little.

Let me know if there's an interest and I'll post a list. I sure would
like
to get them out of this book clogged room.

I also have a box of mostly lighthearted books with graphics that I
don't
feel equal to the task of describing. if There's an interest in those,

I'll post that list,
too.  I just don't want to overwhelm anyone with more scanning than
they
have time for, something I've accidentally done before.

Keep up the good work, all of you. I remain glad to be in your
company.

Always with love,

Lissi

Always with love,

Lissi

----- Original Message -----
From: "misha" <mishatronics@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks


Those sneaky French.  According to this web page

http://french.lovetoknow.com/French_Accent_Marks

They do have umlauts (though usually called trema when it is used in
French words).  I say sneaky because, I always thought naive used an
acute accent, but the table on the web page clearly uses naive as an
example of umlaut accent and it clearly fits the case of pronouncing
each
vowel separately.  I still think in most American books an acute
accent
is almost always used for naive when it occurs in an English
sentence.
Now if it's in a French quote, I guess it better be the trema or the
gendarmes will be on the way.

I can't help much with how to produce it, though.  In MS Word under
insert there is a symbols item which brings up a table of all kinds
of
different characters, but it's hard enough for me to find what I want
in
there (which is why I don't have any of them is this email), much
less
how a blind person would.

Misha

On 6/2/2012 6:25 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:
Hi, Cindy I think it's another word for that umlaut-like mark. I
found
the word on a site where it was talking about French accent marks
(they
do seem to have a lot of them). Regards, Kim.
-----Original Message-----
*From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Cindy
*Sent:* Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:02 PM
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks

I'm curious. What is traemma?
(the answer to your question, though, is umlaut.smile


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    *From:* Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Sent:* Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:16 AM
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks

    Hi, Ali, what sort of accent mark is alt 0237? Is it that I
umlaut
or
    traemma I want? Please write back and let me know. Regards, Kim
    Friedman.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Ali
    Al-hajamy
    Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:11 PM
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks


    If your computer has a number pad, make sure numlock is turned
on.
    Hold
    down the alt key, and press the following numbers: 0237.
    See also:
http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/accents-alt-codes.php

    On 02-Jun-12 01:01, Kim Friedman wrote:
    > How does one make the accent mark on the computer for the I in
the
    > word naive? I know how it's done for literary Braille, but I
have
no
    > idea how it's supposed to be printed. I could sure use help
with
    this.

    > Regards, Kim Friedman.
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