[bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for Braille Readers
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:08:34 -0500
Whether or not to put blank lines between paragraphs, before and after
headers, etc. should be a function of the display device or reader or
of the braille transcription software. The source file should conform to
good word processing standards. Good braille transcription software will
in fact ignore blank lines in the source and insert them in the output
according to their own stylesheet.
John
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49:35PM -0400, Estelnalissi wrote:
> Dear Carrie, Allison and Booksharian Friends,
>
> In the many Bookshare books I've read on my braille note, no blank lines come
> through. Over a year ago, in my effort to indicate blank lines so braille
> readers can see them, I began putting a single asterisk on blank lines. The
> books I've validated show one asterisk and I know a blank line is meant. I
> find knowing a blank line is there is helpful especially between verses in
> poetry and in novels, to show there's a new scene.
>
> Don't worry. I'm not saying I put in blank lines where I think they should
> go. I only use the asterisk to indicate blank lines that are in the text. At
> the beginning of the book I put a note to readers between brackets saying a
> blank line is represented by an asterisk. I've been a little lazy about
> putting in that note lately, but I'll start doing it again.
>
> Since portable braille devices only show a few words at a time, the book can
> seem formless, so I really depend on blank lines to help me notice there's
> been a heading or break of any kind.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carrie Karnos
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:57 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for Braille Readers
>
>
> I thought I said that multiple blank lines would be removed until there was
> a blank line between paragraphs, or add one if there was no blank line
> between paragraphs. In any event, I was wrong. I just checked the XML and
> HTML versions of a file and the display shows blank lines, but when I
> highlight the text, the blank lines are not highlighted. This means that
> there are no blank lines between paragraphs, it just looks like it in the
> display. Claire just stopped by and said that maybe there are blank lines,
> they're just not being highlighted.
> What about Victor Reader Soft and other programs like that? Do they
> recognize blank lines between paragraphs?
>
> Now more confused than ever, Carrie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Allison Hilliker <hillikera@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:26:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for Braille Readers
>
> Hi Mayrie,
>
> Actually, I wondered about this before posting this message. I asked Carrie
> whether or not the stripper would remove blank lines from inside the texts
> and she said it would not. So since the blanks will be retained, I thought
> I'd ask folks if they liked the blanks.
>
> I'm glad you brought up this question though, it was the one I had myself.
>
> Best,
> Allison
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:01 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for Braille Readers
>
>
> > Hi Allison,
> >
> > I think that your blank lines will be removed by the stripper
> > when the book is prepared for daisy and braille. So, I'm not sure that
> > our opinions matter.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Mayrie
> >
> > At 12:50 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>I do read Braille, but I don't always know if my own opinion reflects that
> >>of the majority, so once in a while I ask questions here.
> >>
> >>I'm validating a book that has a lot of headings and almost no blank lines
> >>separating them. I know that when I'm rereading hardcopy Braille, it's
> >>great
> >>to have the headings separated with blank lines, but the experience isn't
> >>the same with a Braille display. Do those of you reading with displays
> >>still like to have the headings separated by blank lines? I've been doing
> >>that, but if it doesn't make a big difference then I won't. Also, what
> >>about numbered lists, do you like a blank line after each numbered item?
> >>How about bulleted lists? I've been changing the bullets into stars upon
> >>the suggestion of many of you on this list, but I hadn't asked about the
> >>blank lines before.
> >>
> >>All feedback is welcome. It won't lead to any official Bookshare policy,
> >>this is just for my own reference.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Allison
> >>
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