[bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading Accessibility
- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:30:25 -0800
Well, judging by the SAPI voices on my computer, they are muffled, dorky
sounding, and I for one, couldn't stand to listen to them. This is not a
matter of not being able to hear them, it's a matter of the aural equivalent
of rubbing nails across a blackboard. Those voices make me cringe. Regards,
Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:44 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading
Accessibility
Dear Monica;
Just like so many areas in health care, there are a wide range of variance
in people who have auditory processing disorders. I certainly don't know
what is considered typical, I just know about the spectrum they can cover.
The new Acapello voices are far superior for most people. I think you will
be pleased with the investment.
Unfortunately I am in no position to site I have read things as my computers
are in total upheaval. I can only speak to my 2 children who were identified
as having auditory processing disorders and the fact that they could not
follow commands by earlier speech devices using DECtalk and I was told that
that was common. I know that many individuals with auditory processing
disorders could not retain information presented in SAPI 4 voices and then
he still can only use some of the SAPI 5 voices. Sorry I cannot be of more
help. I know more about solutions then the research behind them. Smiles.
Valerie
On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Monica Willyard wrote:
> Hi Valerie. I'm probably an odd exception to the auditory processing
> disorder group. I don't know what is typical, and I'm learning more
> about it as I go. I was only correctly diagnosed this year, as an
> adult. Like Nicole, I like the new Acapella voice Bookshare gives us
> and would love to have all of my devices and programs use that voice,
> especially JAWS. I'm going to buy it for my computer as soon as I can
afford it.
>
> You mentioned that people with auditory processing disorder don't
> recognize TTS speech as sound. That confuses me a little. Do you have
> any books or web sites you could recommend about this? If there is no
> information on Bookshare, I will look for a couple of books to scan
> about it. I seem to be backward if this is normal. Then again, I'm
> blind too, so maybe normal isn't really applicable.
>
> I do well using specific types of speech, and there are some human
> readers I can barely comprehend. My inability to understand certain
> readers makes those books inaccessible for me unless I scan them for
> myself. That's something champions of audiobooks probably don't really
> understand. I look at the name of the narrator of a book or listen to
> a sample of the speech before even considering buying it from Audible.
>
> I like books that are in a text format so I can use a voice that I
> understand clearly. I prefer Braille if I can get it. If not, I need a
> fairly constant, very clear, and unaccented voice to cope with
> reading. When I have to use a device with a confusing voice, I use my
> computer to record books into mp3 files using a voice that I do
> understand well. Then I put my good files on the bad device and can
function well.
>
> Knowing what I'm dealing with, and that it will benefit our deaf/blind
> members as well, I usually end up scanning books I want to read from
> NLS unless they have the book in WebBraille. I often end up scanning
> my Audible books too, especially ones that I want to learn from or read in
depth.
>
> Monica Willyard
> "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie
> Maples
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:18 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a Library
>
> I have to agree with Judy. As a matter of fact, Nichole would never
> listen to a synthetic voice until the acapella voices that are now
> available on her device. I don't know anyone who prefers TTS over
> audio books and most are more than willing to pay for the alternative.
> The only people who learn to accept TTS are those who need a wider
> range of books or budget constraints make the other alternative
> unaffordable. Then there are people with auditory processing disorders
> who do not even acknowledge TTS as speech as it is processed slightly
differently in the brain.
>
> In my opinion we need to constantly be exploring and expanding all
> mediums all of text accessibility and in a cooperative effort like
> Bookshare, I think that everyone comes out winners. I know that even
> though I have a membership now I will probably almost exclusively be a
> volunteer due to time constraints, but being a member will allow me to
> check how certain things are handled in the final process or view how
> proofreaders have handled my scans.
>
> Interesting dialogue everyone...
> Valerie
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Judy s.
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:39 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a Library
>>
>> I view the disabling of TTS as about as silly as the digital rights
>> management.
>>
> <snip>
>> I don't know a single sighted person, other than myself, who will
>> willingly listen to listen to a book that they can read by listening
>> to it in a synthetic voice. Me? I can't afford expensive audible
>> downloads, and the NLS's offerings are very limited in my tastes, so
>> listening to books via bookshare downloads using either DAISY or Text
>> Aloud has become an acquired taste, one I've become used to and
>> actually very much enjoy.
>>
>> If sighted readers were the least bit interested in hearing books
>> read with a synthetic voice, I suspect the market would be flooded
>> with that sort of book. Why? It is much cheaper for a book
>> publisher to produce that en masse than it is to hire a professional
>> reader and studio to produce the master for each and every book that
>> becomes an audible book.
>>
>> I really doubt that sales of human-read audible books would waver one
>> whit if ebooks had TTS enabled. It would expand the market of ebooks
>> available to the sighted/disabled reader, but that's about it.
>>
>> Just my opinion. Grin.
>>
>> Judy s.
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