According to her note, if you scan a book, then yes as you would not be dealing with the particular technical issues we've been discussing. They're asking us not to submit any of the electronic books. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:23 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS If I scan a Baen book, do I submit or not? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire O'Brien" <claire.o@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Jim Fruchterman" <Jim.F@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Lisa Friendly" <lisa.f@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jake Brownell" <jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Carrie Karnos" <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>; "Mandy Throckmorton" <Mandy.T@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] BAEN BOOKS > Hi Everyone, > > Recently the subject of Baen books has shown up on the discussion lists. > > > The decision regarding Bookshare.org policy regarding Baen books is > this: > Bookshare.org staff will be responsible for coordinating the bulk add of > Baen content to the Bookshare collection. > > These books may require some mark up, and to ensure they are done > consistently; we've made the decision to process them in-house. > > We ask that our volunteers continue to submit books that they have > personally scanned. > > > Sincerely, > > Claire O'Brien > Collection Development Manager > Bookshare.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:51 PM > To: bksvol-discuss digest users > Subject: bksvol-discuss Digest V5 #9 > > bksvol-discuss Digest Mon, 07 Jan 2008 Volume: 05 Issue: 009 > > In This Issue: > [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing > [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting > [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement > [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal > [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others > sources--of > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others > sources--of > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry > [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit > them? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON > GT-2500 > [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON > GT-2500 > [bksvol-discuss] Another submission > [bksvol-discuss] Another submission > [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics > [bksvol-discuss] One last submission > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow, > Tuesday, > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road > [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great > tip > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > the > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road > [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's > great > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have > scanned an > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request > [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road > [bksvol-discuss] Thank You > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:03:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing > > Grace, > > I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are > not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that > they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by > you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe, > the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious > reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is > submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject > that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll > cancel the request. > > G.Cindy > > --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing >> or pages need rescanning or both. >> >> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's >> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress >> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the >> books and scan these pages then these books can >> finally be off step 1. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Grace > > > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is > available at > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Susan" <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 02:20:07 -0600 > > Happy New Year Everyone From Grace and Susan, > > > We hope you'll join us on the 3rd Friday of January for the first > meeting > of the Romance Book Club in 2008. We'll be discussing A Cinderella > Christmas: (An American Romance) by Shelley Galloway as well as > recommending > a book for the February meeting. > > > > Synopsis: When Morgan finds himself suddenly dateless for his company's > Christmas ball, he asks the woman who cleans his office. But the fairy > tale > evening falls apart when his ex-girlfriend shows up... Guess we weren't > completely able to let go of the holidays quite yet! Hope you'll join > us. > > > > Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 > > > > Time: 6 P.M. Pacific, 7 Mountain, 8 Central, 9 P.M. Eastern and Saturday > GMT > 02:00. > > > > Where: Just point your web browser to the following address: > > http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs7867a2369e0e > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:22:52 -0500 > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement > > Because it was done before NLS made it available or started before NLS > made > the book available, or because it was required for a class where > specific > asignments covering specific pages needed to be done would be my two > best > reasons why duplication is worth it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:41 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] atonement > > >>I see that this book is on the new books list. It is available both as > a >>web braille book and a talking book. I fail to understand why anyone > would >>spend their time scanning a book that is available in both forms from > NLS. >>Jill >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:37:38 -0800 > > What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to > me. I > wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of > the > songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use > during > certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the > process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice > signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like > choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other > movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So > we > have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It > was > obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the > names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were > easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was > peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He > showed up > in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going > to > Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were > racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms > would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend > remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very > early > version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny > that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the > sing-a-long > version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun! > > Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:39:02 -0800 > > Still hoping for a good and fixed scan of Wheelock's Latin..... > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:54:39 -0500 > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others > sources--official > > I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying > the > book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official > attitude > > >> >> -For those of you who might have missed Jim >> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a >> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again. >> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the >> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the >> pertinent part: >> >> G.Cindy >> >> "The question of duplication (with other possible >> means of obtaining >>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general >> answer is that we'd >>> like to have the book. There are several reasons >> for this: >>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you? >> What if you're >>> deaf and blind and need Braille?) >>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille >> over audio, even though >>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at >> the same time works >>> better for you? What if you want to read one way >> while mobile and >>> another way while in your home or office?) >>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are >> excluded from some sources >>> (because they have a learning disability, because >> they are in a >>> different country) >>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to >> make entire series >>> available on Bookshare.org) >>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled >> people are likely to >>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?) >>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our >> users than it is >>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the >> motivation for working >>> with us) >>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task >> success (we want the >>> new and existing user to find the book he or she >> wants the great >>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in >> the future of having >>> access) >>> >>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key >> one is Bookshare.org >>> ethic for collection development. If one person in >> our community >>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we >> want that book. That's >>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there. >> Our low cost to add a >>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community >> makes this a >>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers." >>> >>> Jim Fruchterman >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>> >>> >> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is >> available at >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm >> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads >> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ >> Be a better friend, newshound, and >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 >> 11:57 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:00:38 -0500 > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded for > a > long time, at least the Perfection line. > > What model Epson? > Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice > > > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again. > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help, > so > unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand > hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take > up > room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I have > twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine if > i > go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i > haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there > and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to > count > last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me > know. > Thanks all. > Siobhan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 > 11:57 AM > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:03:34 -0500 > > Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got > so > frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue > is > inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or > not > its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a freebie > > from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax > scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't > ned > it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper > > weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > >>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded > for a >>long time, at least the Perfection line. >> >> What model Epson? >> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >> >> >> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. >> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out > help, >> so >> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand >> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't > take >> up >> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I > have >> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine > if i >> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i >> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there >> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to > >> count >> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me > >> know. >> Thanks all. >> Siobhan >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 >> 11:57 AM >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:09:37 -0800 > > Most Epsons can be installed without using the installation cd. You can > download drivers for the device from the Internet. I'm not saying this > is > easy, but just wanted you to know that there are alternatives. Epsons, > in my > opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are great scanners. > > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got > so >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue > is >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or > not >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a > freebie >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't > ned >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a > paper >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >> >> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded > for a >>>long time, at least the Perfection line. >>> >>> What model Epson? >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >>> >>> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out > help, >>> so >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't > take >>> up >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I > have >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine > if >>> i >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times > to >>> count >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let > me >>> know. >>> Thanks all. >>> Siobhan >>> >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: >>> 1/6/2008 >>> 11:57 AM >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:31:02 -0800 (PST) > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > I've been very happy with mine. But the more recent > one I got, which was on sale, is not as complete as > the other one, and I'd have to download the rest and > pay for it. But since I'm not scanning complete books > any more it's fine for my needs. > > G.Cindy > > --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Most Epsons can be installed without using the >> installation cd. You can >> download drivers for the device from the Internet. >> I'm not saying this is >> easy, but just wanted you to know that there are >> alternatives. Epsons, in my >> opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are >> great scanners. >> >> Scott >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >> >> >> > Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to >> help me withit, I got so >> > frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk >> after clicking continue is >> > inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson >> perfection 1260 whether or not >> > its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven >> years, it was a freebie >> > from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre >> that, I had a UMax >> > scanner that once installed took so long the tech >> woman said youwon't ned >> > it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I >> ended up with a paper >> > weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson >> again. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying >> advice >> > >> > >> >>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have >> been highly regarded for a >> >>long time, at least the Perfection line. >> >> >> >> What model Epson? >> >> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech >> support people? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would >> rather not use them again. >> >> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the >> one I had with out help, >> >> so >> >> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get >> another one. I'm not a brand >> >> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a >> huge one so it won't take >> >> up >> >> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As >> for where to buy, I have >> >> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at >> staples, but that's fine if >> >> i >> >> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's >> an online merchant i >> >> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe >> because you've shopped there >> >> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card >> fraud to many times to >> >> count >> >> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's >> no rush so just let me >> >> know. >> >> Thanks all. >> >> Siobhan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 >> - Release Date: >> >> 1/6/2008 >> >> 11:57 AM >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email >> to >> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the >> subject line. To get a list >> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by >> itself in the subject line. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email >> to >> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the >> subject line. To get a list >> > of available commands, put the word 'help' by >> itself in the subject line. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / >> Virus Database: >> > 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM >> > >> > >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> > > > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is > available at > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:32:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > > It sounds like a lot of fun. There was a theater in > L.A. where they did the same thing at nighttime shows > with Rocky Horror Picture Show. Fortunately, it played > for years, so when my girls were finally old enough we > took them. > > G.Cindy > > --- liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my >> friend described to me. I >> wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but >> remembered about half of the >> songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag >> of props to use during >> certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went >> up and explained the >> process, props, what to use when, various things and >> did some practice >> signing with us. She also explained about >> "chair-ography." Like >> choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand >> jive and a few other >> movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the >> people beside us. So we >> have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young >> John Travolta. It was >> obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here >> first. And some of the >> names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of >> the BeeGees, we were >> easily able to identify which songs. On one song, >> the lead guitarist was >> peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger >> athletic coach. He showed up >> in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being >> developed before going to >> Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, >> and friend and I were >> racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been >> in. We knew our moms >> would know, even through the dementia both suffer. >> But finally my friend >> remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a >> secretary. It was a very early >> version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas >> in "That Girl." Funny >> that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now >> I want the sing-a-long >> version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was >> even more fun! >> >> Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual >> >> Liz Halperin >> Portland, OR >> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> > > > > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is > available at > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others > sources--official att > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:44:22 -0500 > > That is the one publisher where the RTF books can be ported so long as > you > make sure that those submitted RTF files conform to rest of > Bookshare.org's > submission guidelines. > > Regards, > > Pratik > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary > Petraccaro > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:55 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others > sources--official > attitude > > I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying > the > > book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official > attitude > > >> >> -For those of you who might have missed Jim >> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a >> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again. >> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the >> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the >> pertinent part: >> >> G.Cindy >> >> "The question of duplication (with other possible >> means of obtaining >>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general >> answer is that we'd >>> like to have the book. There are several reasons >> for this: >>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you? >> What if you're >>> deaf and blind and need Braille?) >>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille >> over audio, even though >>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at >> the same time works >>> better for you? What if you want to read one way >> while mobile and >>> another way while in your home or office?) >>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are >> excluded from some sources >>> (because they have a learning disability, because >> they are in a >>> different country) >>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to >> make entire series >>> available on Bookshare.org) >>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled >> people are likely to >>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?) >>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our >> users than it is >>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the >> motivation for working >>> with us) >>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task >> success (we want the >>> new and existing user to find the book he or she >> wants the great >>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in >> the future of having >>> access) >>> >>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key >> one is Bookshare.org >>> ethic for collection development. If one person in >> our community >>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we >> want that book. That's >>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there. >> Our low cost to add a >>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community >> makes this a >>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers." >>> >>> Jim Fruchterman >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>> >>> >> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is >> available at >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm >> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads >> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > ________ >> Be a better friend, newshound, and >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 > >> 11:57 AM >> >> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:36:19 -0500 > > Hi, > Would they not need a grade 2 translator? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "E." > > <thoth93@earthlin > > k.net> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > > > > 01/04/2008 11:10 > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the > rtf will showup as grade two braille. > > E. > > > At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote: > >>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind? >> >>Jim >> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead >> >> >> >> >> "Ann Parsons" >> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > To >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> bksvol-discuss-bo > cc >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> g > Subject >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen > Books? >> >> 01/04/2008 01:33 >> PM >> >> >> Please respond to >> bksvol-discuss@fr >> eelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind. >> >>Ann P. >> >>-- >>Ann K. Parsons >>Portal Tutoring >>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>http://www.portaltutoring.info >>"All that is gold does not glitter, >>Not all those who wander are lost." >> >>Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >>www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list > of >>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject > line. >> >> >>__________ NOD32 2766 (20080104) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:14 -0500 > > Hi, > I will help validate any that come through? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:59 -0500 > > No. The screen reader or the note taker takes care of grade 2 > translation > on the fly. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:36 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > > Hi, > Would they not need a grade 2 translator? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "E." > > <thoth93@earthlin > > k.net> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > > > > 01/04/2008 11:10 > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the > rtf will showup as grade two braille. > > E. > > > At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote: > >>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind? >> >>Jim >> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead >> >> >> >> >> "Ann Parsons" >> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > To >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> bksvol-discuss-bo > cc >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> g > Subject >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen > Books? >> >> 01/04/2008 01:33 >> PM >> >> >> Please respond to >> bksvol-discuss@fr >> eelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind. >> >>Ann P. >> >>-- >>Ann K. Parsons >>Portal Tutoring >>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>http://www.portaltutoring.info >>"All that is gold does not glitter, >>Not all those who wander are lost." >> >>Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >>www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list > of >>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject > line. >> >> >>__________ NOD32 2766 (20080104) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:42:55 -0500 > > Hi Maithe, > My prayers are with you. > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:46:31 -0500 > > Hi, > I think I saw this title on step one before. I could be wrong though. > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Phyllis Stevens" > > <catlady1949@comc > > ast.net> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] just uploaded > > > > 01/05/2008 08:17 > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > Home with God in a life that never ends Neale Donald Walsch > > > Excellent book. Already read the others and was glad for this one. > Phyllis, Emmy dog, and > the kitties, Simon and Sarah > > catlady1949@xxxxxxxxxxx > > This is also my MSN address. > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:22:05 -0500 > > me too, My epson 1660 is still trucking along, after now, what three > years > of use, and I put it through its paces, smile. > > Will be sad when this guy goes. > > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Alumni Association Board > www.guidedogs.com > > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. > - Helen Keller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:39 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > > When you think you know what you want, try online with www.newegg.com > for a > good price. I've purchased tons of electronics from them, very satisfied > by > prices and policies. Me, I'm still happily scanning with my old > workhorse > Epson Perfection 1660. Also try online www.pricegrabbers.com to see who > has > the cheapest item you've chosen. For me it's usually been NewEgg, so I > go > directly there now. > > Liz in PDX > > Liz in Portland > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:55 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > > If you want an extremely durable scanner, optimized for document > scanning, > that can scan a page in just about 2 seconds, you may want to try the > EPSON > GT-2500. Lists for $595 but is usually retailed for less. See features > and > specs at: > > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCooki > e=ye > s&oid=63059818 > <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCook > ie=y > es&oid=63059818> > > And it has apparently an absolute killer document feeder to boot! > > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able> > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 01/06/2008 09:17 PM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > > > > > > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the > Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I > have > owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me well. The > LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after around > five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this line > of > scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with Kurzweil in any > way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these scanners > too. > This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop bag, so it > can > travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a reference book at > your > library. I'm interested to see what others will recommend for you. I > hope > this helps. > > Monica Willyard > > > Siobhan wrote: > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again. > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help, > so > unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand > hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take > up > room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 > 11:57 AM > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:22:59 -0800 > > This is about 9 blocks down the street from me.... > > "The Clinton Street Theater has been showing the Rocky Horror Picture > Show > every Saturday night (except for foul weather, holidays, etc.) since > April > 1978. > > Bring your rice, the toast, the G-String, and come on down to the > longest > running RHPS in the WORLD!" > > 30 years... For $6, a real deal. > liz > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:24:57 -0500 > > Ah, smile. > > I have been to that form of movie before with the Rockie horror Picture > Show, smile, a blast with a lot of fun. Would love to join in the > Greece > version. > > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Alumni Association Board > www.guidedogs.com > > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. > - Helen Keller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:37 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease" > > > What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to > me. I > wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of > the > songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use > during > certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the > process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice > signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like > choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other > movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So > we > have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It > was > obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the > names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were > easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was > peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He > showed up > in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going > to > Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were > racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms > would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend > remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very > early > version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny > that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the > sing-a-long > version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun! > > Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 > 11:57 AM > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:43:20 -0500 > From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books? > > Lots of us load .rtf files into notetakers all the time when we > validate. They come up in grade 2 braille. Notetakers have the > translator built right in. > > E. > > > At 07:36 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >>Hi, >>Would they not need a grade 2 translator? >> >>Jim >> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead >> >> >> >> >> "E." >> <thoth93@earthlin >> k.net> > To >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> bksvol-discuss-bo > cc >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> g > Subject >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen > Books? >> >> 01/04/2008 11:10 >> PM >> >> >> Please respond to >> bksvol-discuss@fr >> eelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >>If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the >>rtf will showup as grade two braille. >> >>E. >> >> >>At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote: >> >> >So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind? >> > >> >Jim >> > >> >James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >> >james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> > >> >"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the >> >world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Ann Parsons" >> > <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > >>To >> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > bksvol-discuss-bo >>cc >> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > g >>Subject >> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen > Books? >> > >> > 01/04/2008 01:33 >> > PM >> > >> > >> > Please respond to >> > bksvol-discuss@fr >> > eelists.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi all, >> > >> >Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind. >> > >> >Ann P. >> > >> >-- >> >Ann K. Parsons >> >Portal Tutoring >> >EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >http://www.portaltutoring.info >> >"All that is gold does not glitter, >> >Not all those who wander are lost." >> > >> >Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >> >www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >>of >> >available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> > >> > >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >> >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject >>line. >> > >> > >> >__________ NOD32 2766 (20080104) Information __________ >> > >> >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> >http://www.eset.com >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0600 > > Hi Guido, > Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that > the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm > planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c. > Kellie > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:45:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning? > > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech > tragedy. I am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of > the students who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My > brother took his class. This subject is very close to my heart. My > question is: is it too soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on > the list from the area too? Thank you. > Anastasia > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it now. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500 > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:29:28 -0600 > > No, the flatbed of the GYT-2500 is standard letter size. The feeder > may > accept legal sized documents. If I recall correctly, the feeder also > supports duplex scanning, that is scanning on both sides of a page. . . > great for scanning magazines and books that have been 'deboned'--or have > > been rendered 'spineless'. > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/07/2008 08:08 AM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > > > > > > Hi Guido, > Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that > the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm > planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c. > Kellie > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:30:55 -0600 > > Hi, all. > > I have just submitted, for your validating pleasure, All The Wrong > Places by > Karin Kallmaker. This is a lesbian romance, and definitely contains some > > adult content. It is in .rtf format, and headers have been removed. The > synopsis is below. > > Brandy Monsoon is looking for love. Since there's never a shortage of > casual > playmates at the tropical resort where she works, most of the time she > gets > it, too. And if Brandy tires of the perpetually curious - but primarily > straight - women, there's always her best friend Tess for a friendly > encounter... > > > > When an all-lesbian tour group arrives for a week, Brandy is sure she'll > be > in-paradise on earth. Among the guests is lesbian celebrity comic Celine > > Griffin, who has an obvious interest in an after-dinner Brandy. Celine > and > Brandy do find explosive pleasure together, - so why does Brandy feel as > if > that's no longer enough for happiness? > > > > With days and nights so delicious... who cares about tomorrow? > > > > In All the Wrong Places, Lambda award winner Karin Kallmaker spins > another > masterful tale of passion and love. > > > > Shannon > > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:32:59 -0600 > > Spineless books, like spineless people, are rather dull. <lol> You're > right about the duplex; that's what the specs said. > Thanks, > Kellie, who's eating cold oatmeal and beef jerky for breakfast > > ------------------------------ > > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:38:14 -0600 > > Those Who Save Us by Jenna Blum has been submitted in .rtf format. Here > is > the synopsis. > > FOR FIFTY YEARS, Anna Schlemmer has refused to talk about her life in > Germany during World War II. Her daughter, Trudy, was only three when > she > and her mother were liberated by an American soldier and went to live > with > him in Minnesota. Trudy's sole evidence of the past is an old > photograph: a > family portrait showing Anna, Trudy, and a Nazi officer. Trudy, now a > professor of German history, begins investigating the past and finally > unearths the heartbreaking truth of her mother's life. Those Who Save Us > is > a profound exploration of what we endure to survive and the legacy of > shame. > > > > Shannon > > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:47:13 -0600 > > I have also submitted Halfway House by Katharine Noel. As usual, it is > in > .rtf format. Find the synopsis below. > > One day, Angie Voorster-diligent student, all-star swimmer, and Ivy > > > > League-bound high school senior-dives to the bottom of a pool and stays > > > > there. In that moment, everything the Voorster family believes they know > > > > about each other changes. As Angie swings between manic highs and > dangerous > > > > lows, the Voorsters struggle to maintain the appearance of an ideal New > England > > > > family. It is only when Angie is finally able to fend for herself that > the > family allows > > > > itself to fall apart and then regather in a new, fundamentally changed > way. > With grace > > > > and precision, debut novelist Katharine Noel guides us through a world > where > love > > > > is imperfect, and where longing for an imagined ideal can both destroy > one > family's > > > > happiness and offer it redemption. > > > Shannon > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:01:24 -0800 > > Looking at last Set/Oct NLS Braille Book review. Normally I dislike that > so > much of the "Adult Fiction" is for junior and senior high readers. Some > of > the other books say "explicit descriptions of sex, violence, and strong > language." Ok. But read the description of this one. If it were being > scanned into Bookshare would it be marked Adult Content because of the > sex > and violence? "Copper Sunday by Sharon Draper, 2 volumes. Amari is taken > from her African village when she is fifteen and sold to a southern > plantation owner in America. Amari and Polly, a white indentured > servant, > risk everything to escape. Descriptions of sex and violence. For senior > high > and older readers. Coretta Scott King Award. 2006." > And what makes the difference of descriptions of vs. explicit????? > > Liz in PDX > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:01:50 -0600 > > All, I have just downloaded: > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market > > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport > > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document > > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case, > > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > Guido > > > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:03:35 -0800 > > Please scan it! > Liz in PDX > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia > Saridakis > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning? > > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech > tragedy. I > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the > students > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took > his > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area > too? > Thank you. > > Anastasia > > > ________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > now. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i6 > 2sR8 > HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:09:02 -0800 (PST) > From: jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics > > Submitted nonfiction: Matrix Energetics by Richard Bartlett 2007. > Matrix Energetics a modern display of healing by the laying on of hands. > Matrix Energetics applies the principles of quantum physics as a unique > and effective approach to healing. This is the essence of energy > medicine." > Easy validation: > -headers removed > -page numbers validated, blank pages labeled and numbered > -carefully spellchecked. > -pages separated with page break. > > Jim Nuttall > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] One last submission > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:38:24 -0600 > > The last submission for today is Miracles Happen: One Mother, One > Daughter, > one Journey by Brooke and Jean Ellison. This is in .rtf format. > > This is the story of Brooke Ellison, who was paralyzed in 1990, at the > age > of eleven, and of Jean, her mother, who became Brooke's primary > caregiver, > even going so far as to go to Harvard with her. > > Shannon > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:45:21 -0600 > > yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano > internet store Amber, G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Monica Willyard > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider > the Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. > I have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me > well. The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died > after around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes > with this line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere > with Kurzweil in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples > has these scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit > into a laptop bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want > to scan a reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what > others will recommend for you. I hope this helps. > > Monica Willyard > > > Siobhan wrote: > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with > out help, so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. > I'm not a brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one > so it won't take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:50:35 -0500 > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Guido Corona" > > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > > m> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > 01/07/2008 11:01 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass > market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to > sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the > document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the > case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Dan Beaver" > > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: > To > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > s.org > cc > > > > Subject > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:55:44 -0600 > > It is worth pointing out that Canon Light scanners use CIS image > sensors. > This sensors are not quite as good as the CCD sensors employed in larger > > scanners; they frequently yield slightly noisy images that have the > additional tendency to fall apart towards the spine of the book because > of > poor depth of field. These in turn yield less accurate OCR conversions. > > Bottom line is that while light scanners are great for portability, > bigger > / non portable scanners with CCD imagers are more accurate and in the > > end may save editing/validation time. > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/07/2008 11:45 AM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > > > > > > yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano > internet store Amber, G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Monica Willyard > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the > Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I > have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me > well. > The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after > around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this > > line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with > Kurzweil > in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these > scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop > > bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a > reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what others will > recommend for you. I hope this helps. > > Monica Willyard > > > Siobhan wrote: > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again. > > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help, > > so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it > won't > take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:15:00 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx> > > At the end of the Star Wars book I just validated is a list of other > Star > Wars books. I thought I'd post the list, and what I see, at a quick > glance, that Bookshare already has. If some Star Wars fan sees one they > fancy that we don't have, maybe someone will be moved to scan it. > Offhand, I notice we have book 3 of the Corellian series, but not 1 or > 2. > > Ignore the page numbers that are still in the list. > > > Bookshare has: > New Rebellion > Rogue Squadron #1 > The Approaching Storm > Showdown at Centerpoint (book 3 in Corellian series) > The Truce at Bakura > Heir to the Empire > Dark Force Rising > The Last Command > > > > THE TRUCE AT BAKURA by Kathy Tyers > Setting: Immediately after Return of the Jedi > The day after his climactic battle with Emperor Palpatine and the > sacrifice of his father, Darth Vader, who died saving his life, Luke > Skywalker helps recover an Imperial drone ship bearing a startling > message > intended for the Emperor. It is a distress signal from the far-off > Imperial outpost of Bakura, which is under attack by an alien invasion > force, the Ssi-ruuk. Leia sees a rescue mission as an opportunity to > achieve a diplomatic victory for the Rebel Alliance, even if it means > fighting alongside former Imperials. But Luke receives a vision from > Obi-Wan Kenohi revealing that the stakes are even higher: the invasion > at > Bakura threatens everything the Rebels have won at such great cost. > > STAR WARS: X-WING > by Michael A. Stackpole > ROGUE SQUADRON > WEDGE'S GAMBLE > THE KRYTOS TRAP > THE BACTA WAR > Setting: Three years after Return of the Jedi > Inspired by X-wing, the bestselling computer game from LucasArts > Entertainment Co., this exciting series chronicles the further > adventures > of the most feared and fearless fighting force in the galaxy. A new > generation of X-wing pilots, led by Commander Wedge Antilles, is > combating > the remnants of the Empire still left after the events of the STAR WARS > movies. Here are novels full of explosive space action, nonstop > adventure, > and the special brand of wonder known as STAR WARS. > In this very early scene, young Corellian pilot Corran Horn faces a > tough > challenge fast enough to get his heart pounding- and this is > > 391 > > only a simulation! [P.S.: "Whistler" is Corran's R2 axtnimech droid]: > The Corellian brought his proton torpedo targeting program up and locked > on to the TIE. It tried (o break (he lock, but turbolasur fire from the > Komlev boxed it in. Corran's heads-up display went red and he triggered > the torpedo. "Scratch one eyeball." > The missile shot straight in at the fighter, but the pilot broke hard to > port and away, causing the missile to overshoot the target. Nice flying! > Corran brought his X-wing over and started down to loop in behind the > TIE, > but as he did so. the TIE vanished from his forward screen and > reappeared > in his aft are. Yanking the stick hard to the right and pulling it back, > Corran wrestled the X-wing up and to starboard, then inverted and rolled > out to the left. > A laser shot jolted a tremor through the simulator's couch. Lucky thing > I > had all shields aft! Corran reinforced them with energy from his lasers, > then evened them out fore and aft. Jinking the fighter right and left, > he > avoided laser shots coming in from behind, but they all came in far > closer > than he liked. > He knew Jacc had been in the bomber, and Jacc was the only pilot in the > unit who could have stayed with him. Except for our leader. Corran > smiled > broadly. Coming to see how good I really am. Commander Antilles? Let me > give you a clinic. "Make sure you're in there solid, Whistler, because > we're going for a little ride." > Corran refused to let the R2's moan slow him down. A snap-roll brought > the > X-wing up on its port wing. Pulling back on the stick yanked the > fighter's > nose up away from the original line of flight. The TIE stayed with him, > then tightened up on the arc to close distance. Corran then rolled > another > ninety degrees and continued the turn into a dive. Throttling back, > Corran > hung in the dive for three seconds, then hauled back hard on the stick > and > cruised up into the TIE fighter's aft. > The X-wing's laser fire missed wide to the right as the TIE cut to the > left. Corran kicked his speed up to full and broke with the TIE. He let > the X-wing rise above the plane of the break, then put the fighter > through > a twisting roll that ate up enough time to bring him again into the > TIE's > rear. The TIE snapped to the right and Corran looped out left. > He watched the tracking display as the distance between them grew to be > a > kilometer and a half, then slowed, fine, you want to go nose to nose? I > 've got shields and you don't. If Commander Antilles wanted to commit > virtual suicide, Corran was happy to oblige him. He tugged > > 392 > > the stick back to his sternum and rolled out in an inversion loop. > Coming > at you! > The two starfighters closed swiftly. Corran centered his foe in the > crosshairs and waited for a dead shot. Without shields the TIE fighter > would die with one burst, and Corran wanted the kill to be clean. His > HUD > flicked green as the TIE juked in and out of the center, then locked > green > as they closed. > The TIE started firing at maximum range and scored hits. At that > distance > the lasers did no real damage against the shields, prompting Corran to > wonder why Wedge was wasting the energy. Then, as the HUD's green color > started to flicker, realization dawned. The bright bursts on the shields > are a distraction to my targeting! I better kill him now! > Corran tightened down on the trigger button, sending red laser needles > stabbing out at the closing TIE fighter. He couldn't tell if he had hit > anything. Lights flashed in the cockpit and Whistler started screeching > furiously. Corran's main monitor went black, his shields were down, and > his weapons controls were dead. > The pilot looked left and right. "Where is he, Whistler?" > The monitor in front of him flickered to life and a diagnostic report > began to scroll by. Bloodred bordered the damage reports. "Scanners, > out; > lasers, out; shields, out; engine, out! I'm a wallowing Hutt just > hanging > here in space." > > THE COURTSHIP OF PRINCESS LEIA > by Dave Wolverton Setting: Four years after Return of the Jedi > One of the most interesting developments in Bantam's Star Wars novels is > that in their storyline. Han Solo and Princess Leia start a family. This > tale reveals how the couple originally got together. Wishing to > strengthen > the fledgling New Republic by bringing in powerful allies, Leia opens > talks with the Hopes consortium of more than sixty worlds. But the > consortium is ruled by the Queen Mother, who, to Han's dismay, wants > Leia > to marry her son. Prince holder. Before this action-packed story is > over, > Luke will join forces with holder against a group of Force-trained > "witches" and face a deadly foe. > > 393 > > HEIR TO THE EMPIRE DARK FORCE RISING THE LAST COMMAND > by Timothy Zahn > Setting: Five years after Return of the Jedi > This bestselling trilogy introduces two legendary forces of evil into > the > Star Wars literary pantheon. Grand Admiral Thrawn has taken control of > the > Imperial fleet in the years since the destruction of the Death Star, and > the mysterious Joruus C'baoth is a fearsome Jedi Master who has been > seduced by the dark side. Han and Leia have now been married for about a > year, and as the story begins, she is pregnant with twins. Thrawn's plan > is to crush the Rebellion and resurrect the Empire's New Order with > C'baoth's help--and in return, the Dark Master will get Han and Leia 's > Jedi children to mold as he wishes. For as readers of this magnificent > trilogy will see, Luke Skywalker is not the last of the old Jedi. He is > the first of the new. > The Jedi Academy Trilogy: > JEDISEARCH > DARK APPRENTICE > CHAMPIONS OF THE FORCE > by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Seven years after Return of the Jedi > In order to assure the continuation of the Jedi Knights, Luke Skywalker > has decided to start a training facility: a Jedi Academy. He will gather > force-sensitive students who show potential as prospective Jedi and > serve > as their mentor, as Jedi Masters Obi-Wan Kenohi and Yoda did for him. > Han > and Leia's twins are now toddlers, and there is a third Jedi child: the > infant Anakin, named after Luke and Leia's father. In this trilogy, we > discover the existence of a powerful imperial doomsday weapon, the > horrifying Sun Crusher--which will soon become the centerpiece of a > titanic struggle between Luke Skywalker and his most brilliant Jedi > Academy student, who is delving dangerously into the dark side. > > 394 > > CHILDREN OF THE JEDI by Barbara Hambly > Setting: Eight years after Return of the Jedi > The Star Wars characters face a menace from the glory days of the Empire > when a thirty-year-old automated Imperial Dreadnought comes to life and > begins its grim mission: to gather forces and annihilate a > long-forgotten > stronghold of Jedi children. When Luke is whisked onboard, he begins to > communicate with the brave Jedi Knight who paralyzed the ship decades > ago, > and gave her life in the process. Now she is part of the vessel, > existing > in its artificial intelligence core, and guiding Luke through one of the > most unusual adventures he has ever had. > In this scene, Luke discovers that an evil presence is gathering, one > that > will force him to join the battle: > Like See-Threepio, Nichos Marr sat in the outer room of the suite to > which > Cray had been assigned, in the power-down mode that was the droid > equivalent of rest. Like Threepio, at the sound of Luke's almost > noiseless > tread he turned his head, aware of his presence. > "Luke?" Cray had equipped him with the most sensitive vocal modulators, > and the word was calibrated to a whisper no louder than the rustle of > the > blueleaves massed outside the windows. He rose, and crossed to where > Luke > stood, the dull silver of his arms and shoulders a phantom gleam in the > stray flickers of light. "What is it?" > "I don't know." They retreated to the small dining area where Luke had > earlier probed his mind, and Luke stretched up to pin back a corner of > the > lamp-sheath, letting a slim triangle of butter-colored light fall on the > purple of the vulwood tabletop. "A dream. A premonition, maybe." It was > on > his lips to ask, Do you dream? but he remembered the ghastly, imageless > darkness in Nichos's mind, and didn't. He wasn't sure if his pupil was > aware of the difference from his human perception and knowledge, aware > of > just exactly what he'd lost when his consciousness, his self, had been > transferred. > In the morning Luke excused himself from the expedition Tomla El had > organized with Nichos and Cray to the Falls of Dessiar, one of the > places > on Ithor most renowned for its beauty and peace. When they left he > sought > out Umwaw Moolis, and the tall herd leader listened gravely to his less > than logical request and promised to put matters in train to fulfill it. > Then Luke descended to the House of the Healers, where Drub McKumb lay, > sedated far beyond pain but with all the perceptions of agony and > nightmare still howling in his mind. > > 395 > > "Kill you!" He heaved himself at the restraints, blue eyes glaring > furiously as he groped and scrabbled at Luke with his clawed hands. > "It's > all poison! I see you! I see the dark light all around you! You're him! > You're him!" His back bent like a bow; the sound of his shrieking was > like > something being ground out of him by an infernal mangle. > Luke had been through the darkest places of the universe and of his own > mind, had done and experienced greater evil than perhaps any man had > known > on the road the Force had dragged him . . . Still, it was hard not to > turn > away. > "We even tried yarrock on him last night," explained the Healer in > charge, > a slightly built Ithoriiin beautifully tabby-striped green and yellow > under her simple tabard of purple linen. "But apparently the earlier > doses > that brought him enough lucidity to reach here from his point of origin > oversensitized his system. We'll try again in four or five days." > Luke gazed down into the contorted, grimacing face. > "As you can see," the Healer said, "the internal perception of pain and > fear is slowly lessening. It's down to ninety-three percent of what it > was > when he was first brought in. Not much, I know, but something." > "Him! Him! HIM!" Foam spattered the old man's stained gray beard. > Who? > "I wouldn't advise attempting any kind of mindlink until it's at least > down to fifty percent. Master Skywalker." > "No," said Luke softly. > Kill you all. And, They are gathering . . . > "Do you have recordings of everything he's said?" > "Oh, yes." The big coppery eyes blinked assent. "The transcript is > available through the monitor cubicle down the hall. We could make > nothing > of them. Perhaps they will mean something to you." > They didn't. Luke listened to them all, the incoherent groans and > screams, > the chewed fragments of words that could be only guessed at, and now and > again the clear disjointed cries: "Solo! Solo! Can you hear me? Children > . > . . Evil . . . Gathering here . . . Kill you all!" > > 396 > > DARKSABER by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Immediately thereafter > Not long after Children of the Jedi, Luke and Han learn that evil Hutts > are building a reconstruction of the original Death Star--and that the > Empire is still alive, in the form ofDaala, who has joined forces with > Pellaeon, former second in command to the feared Grand Admiral Thrawn. > In > this early scene, Luke has returned to the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi on > Tatooine to try and consult a long-gone mentor: > He stood anxious and alone, feeling like a prodigal son outside the > ramshackle, collapsed hut that had once been the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi. > Luke swallowed and stepped forward, his footsteps crunching in the > silence. He had not been here in many years. The door had fallen off its > hinges; part of the clay front wall had fallen in. Boulders and crumbled > adobe jammed the entrance. A pair of small, screeching desert rodents > snapped at him and fled for cover; Luke ignored them. > Gingerly, he ducked low and stepped into the home of his first mentor. > Luke stood in the middle of the room breathing deeply, turning around, > trying to sense the presence he desperately needed to see. This was the > place where Obi-Wan Kenobi had told Luke of the Force. Here, the old man > had first given Luke his lightsaber and hinted at the truth about his > father, "from a certain point of view," dispelling the diversionary > story > that Uncle Owen had told, at the same time planting seeds of his own > deceptions. > "Ben," he said and closed his eyes, calling out with his mind as well as > his voice. He tried to penetrate the invisible walls of the Force and > reach to the luminous being of Obi-Wan Kenobi who had visited him > numerous > times, before saying he could never speak with Luke again. > "Ben, I need you," Luke said. Circumstances had changed. He could think > of > no other way past the obstacles he faced. Obi-Wan had to answer. It > wouldn't take long, but it could give him the key he needed with all his > heart. > Luke paused and listened and sensed- - > But felt nothing. If he could not summon Obi-Wan's spirit here in the > empty dwelling where the old man had lived in exile for so many years, > Luke didn't believe he could find his former teacher ever again. > He echoed the words Leia had used more than a decade earlier, > > 397 > > beseeching him, "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi," Luke whispered, "you're my > only > hope." > THE CRYSTAL STAR > by Vonda N. Mcintyre > Setting: Ten years after Return of the Jedi > Leia 's three children have been kidnapped. That horrible fact is made > worse by Leia's realization that she can no longer sense her children > through the Force! While she, Artoo-Detoo, and Chewbacca trail the > kidnappers, Luke and Han discover a planet that is suffering strange > quantum effects from a nearby star. Slowly freezing into a perfect > crystal > and disrupting the Force, the star is blunting Luke's power and > crippling > the Millennium Falcon. These strands converge in an apocalyptic threat > not > only to the fate of the New Republic, but to the universe itself. > > The Black Fleet Crisis > BEFORE THE STORM > SHIELD OF LIES > TYRANT'S TEST > by Michael P. Kube-McDowell > Setting: Twelve years after Return of the Jedi > Long after setting up the hard-won New Republic, yesterday's Rebels have > become today's administrators and diplomats. But the peace is not to > last > for long. A restless Luke must journey to his mother's homeworld in a > desperate quest to find her people; Lando seizes a mysterious spacecraft > with unimaginable weapons of destruction; and waiting in the wings is an > horrific battle fleet under the control of a ruthless leader bent on a > genocidal war. > Here is an opening scene from Before the Storm: > In the pristine silence of space, the Fifth Battle Group of the New > Republic Defense Fleet blossomed over the planet Bessimir like a > beautiful, deadly flower. > The formation of capital ships sprang into view with startling > suddenness, > trailing fire-white wakes of twisted space and bristling with weapons. > Angular Star Destroyers guarded fat-hulled fleet carriers, while the > assault cruisers, their mirror finishes gleaming, took the point. > > 398 > > A halo of smaller ships appeared at the same time. The fighters among > them > quickly deployed in a spherical defensive screen. As the Star Destroyers > firmed up their formation, their flight decks quickly spawned scores of > additional fighters. > At the same time, the carriers and cruisers began to disgorge the > bombers, > transports, and gunboats they had ferried to the battle. There was no > reason to risk the loss of one fully loaded--a lesson the Republic had > learned in pain. At Orinda, the commander of the fleet carrier Endurance > had kept his pilots waiting in the launch bays, to protect the smaller > craft from Imperial fire as long as possible. They were still there when > Endurance took the brunt of a Super Star Destroyer attack and vanished > in > a ball of metal fire. > Before long more than two hundred warships, large and small, were > bearing > down on Bessimir and its twin moons. But the terrible, restless power of > the armada could be heard and felt only by the ships' crews. The silence > of the approach was broken only on the fleet comm channels, which had > crackled to life in the first moments with encoded bursts of noise and > cryptic ship-to-ship chatter. > At the center of the formation of great vessels was the flagship of the > Fifth Battle Group, the fleet carrier Intrepid, She was so new from the > yards at Hakassi that her corridors still recked of scaling compound and > cleaning solvent. Her huge realspace thruster engines still sang with > the > high-pitched squeal that the engine crews called "the baby's cry." > It would take more than a year for the mingled scents of the crew to > displace the chemical smells from the first impressions of visitors. But > after a hundred more hours under way, her engines' vibrations would drop > two octaves, to the reassuring thrum of a seasoned thruster bank. > On Intrepid'* bridge, a tall Dornean in general's uniform paced along an > arc of command stations equipped with large monitors. His eye-folds were > swollen and fanned by an unconscious Dornean defensive reflex, and his > leathery face was flushed purple by concern. Before the deployment was > even a minute old, Etahn A'baht's first command had been bloodied. > The fleet tender Afiazi had overshot its jump, coming out of hyperspace > too close to Bessimir and too late for its crew to recover from the > error. > Etahn A'baht watched the bright flare of light in the upper atmosphere > from Intrepid^s forward viewstation, knowing that it meant six young men > were dead. > > 399 > > THE NEW REBELLION by Kristine Kathryn Rusch > Setting: Thirteen years after Return of the Jedi > Victorious though the New Republic may be. there is still no end to the > threats to its continuing existence- this novel explores the price of > keeping the peace. First, somewhere in the galaxy, millions suddenly > perish in a blinding instant of pain. Then, as Leia prepares to address > the Senate on Coruscant, a horrifying event changes the governmental > equation in a flash. > Here is that latter calamity, in an early scene from The New Rebellion: > An explosion rocked the Chamber, flinging Leia into the air. She flew > backward and slammed onto a desk, her entire body shuddering with the > power of her hit. Blood and shrapnel rained around her. Smoke and dust > rose, filling the room with a grainy darkness. She could hear nothing. > With a shaking hand, she touched the side of her face. Warmth stained > her > cheeks and her earlobes. The ringing would start soon. The explosion was > loud enough to affect her eardrums. > Emergency glow panels seared the gloom. She could feel rather than hear > pieces of the crystal ceiling fall to the ground. A guard had landed > beside her, his head tilted at an unnatural angle. She grabbed his > blaster. She had to get out. She wasn't certain if the attack had come > from within or from without. Wherever it had come from, she had to make > certain no other bombs would go off. > The force of the explosion had affected her balance. She crawled over > bodies, some still moving, as she made her way to the stairs. The > slightest movement made her dizzy and nauseous, but she ignored the > feelings. She had to. > A face loomed before hers. Streaked with dirt and blood, helmet askew, > she > recognized him as one of the guards who had been with her since > Alderaan. > Your Highness, he mouthed, and she couldn't read the rest. She shook her > head at him, gasping at the increased dizziness, and kept going. > Finally she reached the stairs. She used the remains of a desk to get to > her feet. Her gown was soaked in blood, sticky, and clinging to her > legs. > She held the blaster in front of her, wishing that she could hear. If > she > could hear, she could defend herself. > A hand reached out of the rubble beside her. She whirled, faced it, > watched as Meido pulled himself out. His slender features were covered > with dirt, but he appeared unharmed. He saw her blaster and > > 400 > > cringed. She nodded once to acknowledge him, and kept moving. The guard > was flanking her. > More rubble dropped from the ceiling. She crouched, hands over her head > to > protect herself. Small pebbles pelted her, and the floor shivered as > large > chunks of tile fell. Dust rose, choking her. She coughed, feeling it, > but > not able to hear it. Within an instant, the Hall had gone from a place > of > ceremonial comfort to a place of death. > The image of the death's-head mask rose in front of her again, this time > from memory. She had known this was going to happen. Somewhere, from > some > part of her Force-sensitive brain, she had seen this. Luke said that > Jedi > were sometimes able to see the future. But she had never completed her > training. She wasn't a Jcdi. > But she was close enough. > > The Corellian Trilogy: > AMBUSH AT CORELLIA > ASSAULT AT SELONIA > SHOWDOWN AT CENTERPOINT > by Roger MacBride Alien > Setting: Fourteen years after Return of the Jedi > This trilogy takes us to Corellia, Him Solo s homcworld. which Han has > not > visited in quite some time. A trade summit brings Han, Leia, and the > children- -now developing their own clear personalities and > instinctively > learning more about their innate skills in the Force--into the middle of > a > situation that most closely resembles a burning jime. The Corellian > system > is on the brink of civil war, there are New Republic intelligence agents > on a mysterious mission which even Han does not understand, and worst of > all, a fanatical rebel leader has his hands on a superweapon of > unimaginable power- -and just wait until you find out who that leader > is! > Here is an early scene from Ambush that gives you a wonderful look at > the > growing Solo children (the twins are Jacen and Jaina, and their little > brother is Anakin): > Anakin plugged the board into the innards of the droid and pressed a > button. The droid's black, boxy body shuddered awake, it drew in its > wheels to stand up a bit taller, its status lights lit, and it made a > sort > of triple beep. "That's good," he said, and pushed the button again. The > droid's status lights went out, and its body slumped down again. Anakin > picked up the next piece, a motivation actuator. He frowned at > > 401 > > it as he turned it over in his hands. He shook his head. "That's not > good," he announced. > "What's not good?" Jaina asked. > "This thing," Anakin said, handing her the actuator. "Can't you telfi > The > insides part is all melty." > Jaina and Jacen exchanged a look. "The outside looks okay," Jaina said, > giving the part to her brother. "How can he tell what the inside of it > looks like? It's sealed shut when they make it." > Anakin, still sitting on the floor, took the device from his brother and > frowned at it again. He turned it over and over in his hands, and then > held it over his head and looked at it as if he were holding it up to > the > light. "There," he said, pointing a chubby finger at one point on the > unmarked surface. "In there is the bad part." He rearranged himself to > sit > cross-legged, put the actuator in his lap, and put his right index > finger > over the "bad" part. "Fix," he said. "Fix." The dark brown outer case of > the actuator seemed to glow for a second with an odd blue-red light, but > then the glow sputtered out and Anakin pulled his finger away quickly > and > stuck it in his mouth, as if he had burned it on something. > "Better now?" Jaina asked. > "Some better," Anakin said, pulling his finger out of his mouth. "Not > all > better." He took the actuator in his hand and stood up. He opened the > access panel on the broken droid and plugged in the actuator. He closed > the door and looked expectantly at his older brother and sister. > "Done?" Jaina asked. > "Done," Anakin agreed. "But I'm not going to push the button." He backed > well away from the droid, sat down on the floor, and folded his arms. > Jacen looked at his sister. > "Not me," she said. "This was your idea." > Jacen stepped forward to the droid, reached out to push the power button > from as far away as he could, and then stepped hurriedly back. > Once again, the droid shuddered awake, rattling a bit this time as it > did > so. It pulled its wheels in, lit its panel lights, and made the same > triple beep. But then its holocam eye viewlens wobbled back and forth, > and > its panel lights dimmed and flared. It rolled backward just a bit, and > then recovered itself. > "Good morning, young mistress and masters," it said. "How may I surge > you?" > Well, one word wrong, but so what? Jacen grinned and clapped his hands > and > rubbed them together eagerly. "Good day, droid," he said. They had done > it! But what to ask for first? "First tidy up this room," > > 402 > > he said. A simple task, and one that ought to serve as a good test of > what > this droid could do. > Suddenly the droid's overhead access door blew off and there was a flash > of light from its interior. A thin plume of smoke drifted out of the > droid. Its panel lights flared again, and then the work arm sagged > downward. The droid's body, softened by heat, sagged in on itself and > drooped to the floor. The floor and walls and ceiling of the playroom > were > supposed to be fireproof, but nonetheless the floor under the droid > darkened a bit, and the ceiling turned black. The ventilators kicked on > high automatically, and drew the smoke out of the room. After a moment > they shut themselves off, and the room was silent. > The three children stood, every bit as frozen to the spot as the droid > was, absolutely stunned. It was Anakin who recovered first. He walked > cautiously toward the droid and looked at it carefully, being sure not > to > get too close or touch it. "Really melty now," he announced, and then > wandered off to the other side of the room to play with his blocks. > The twins looked at the droid, and then at each other. > "We're dead," Jaeen announced, surveying the wreckage. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:06 -0500 > > Hi, > I'd be glad to validate when I see any of these. > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:30:24 -0500 > > Nah, sometimes having books about something like that Stasia can help > with > the grieving process. > > > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Alumni Association Board > www.guidedogs.com > > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. > - Helen Keller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anastasia Saridakis" <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:45 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning? > > > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech > tragedy. I > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the > students > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took > his > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too > > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area > too? > Thank you. > > Anastasia > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > now. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 > 11:57 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:12 -0600 > > It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the > > body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the > book > may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places. > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/07/2008 11:50 AM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > > > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > "Guido Corona" > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > m> > To > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > g > Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > 01/07/2008 11:01 > AM > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@fr > eelists.org > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass > market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to > sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the > document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the > case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > "Dan Beaver" > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: > To > > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > s.org > cc > > > > Subject > > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:31:26 -0500 > > Savage skies is from the same person as well. But the scan look pretty > good > that's why I am bothering with it. Thanks for getting it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:03 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing > > >> Grace, >> >> I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are >> not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that >> they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by >> you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe, >> the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious >> reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is >> submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject >> that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll >> cancel the request. >> >> G.Cindy >> >> --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing >>> or pages need rescanning or both. >>> >>> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's >>> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress >>> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the >>> books and scan these pages then these books can >>> finally be off step 1. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Grace >> >> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is >> available at >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm >> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads >> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? >> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. >> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:45:53 -0500 > > Hi Guido, > Word has both hard and soft page breaks. Do you see both? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Guido Corona" > > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > > m> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Claire O'Brien" > > g <obriencm@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > 01/07/2008 02:26 again - how do we submit them? > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the > body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the > book > may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places. > > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent by: > > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freeli > To > sts.org bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > cc > > > 01/07/2008 11:50 AM > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > "Guido Corona" > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > m> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > 01/07/2008 11:01 > AM > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@fr > eelists.org > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > "Dan Beaver" > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: > To > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > s.org > cc > > > Subject > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:30:48 -0500 > From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > > Hi, Anastasia. If a book is on the shelves at a bookstore or library, > it's never too soon to get it into the collection. (smile) > Monica Willyard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:43:21 -0800 (PST) > From: Michael Sestak <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some > hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare > software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think > soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on > the fly). > Misha > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Guido Corona" > > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > > m> > To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > 01/07/2008 11:01 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass > market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to > sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the > document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the > case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right > who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Dan Beaver" > > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: > To > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > s.org > cc > > > > Subject > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > > again - how do we submit > them? > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work > on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject > line. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Pat Price" <patlprice@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow, Tuesday, > 1-8-08 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:47:09 -0500 > > Hello everyone, > > First, let me say that I hope you had both a happy and joy filled > Christmas > and New Year celebration with those you love most. > > Now that the holidays are behind us for another year, it is time to > return > to another love we share, and that is exactly what Hooked on Books is > all > about. > > Tomorrow at 11 A.M. pacific, noon Mountain, 1 P.M. central and 2 P.M. > Eastern time, we will begin the new year with a new book. Let me tell > you > just a little bit about what we will be reading together. > > Karen E. Bender's debut novel, Like Normal People takes place over the > course of just one day, but as some days often do, it has profound and > long > lasting effects for the characters. On the day in question in this > novel. a > 48 year old mentally challenged woman decides to change her life by > leaving > her comfortable home in which she lives with her widowed mother. > Accompanying her on this journey is her troubled 12 year old niece. Why > has > she chosen this step? What will the two of them do while gone? How will > those left home both to wonder and to worry deal with this sudden > surprise? > Is it sudden at all? What will Lena and her niece discover about > themselves? How can life ever return to normal again? Does Lena have > longings and dreams to realize that will require new levels of > understanding and growth her mother will struggle with which to come to > terms? How will this affect her mother's view of her own life? How much > does > letting go and accepting change affect a mother's feeling of being > needed > and her place in the world? What does letting go cost? > > Come feel with me what Karen's characters feel! Together, Karen Bender > will > share with us what a family learns about growth and love and need, but > the > journey there will rock the foundation of life as they have known it. > > All of this can be experienced when you join us in the Friends of > Bookshare > In between The Bookends room by going to the link below. > > > http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs83ce590a4853 > > > I promise to do my part to give you a pleasurable afternoon. Relax, > bring a > hobby you can do while listening. I look forward to reading to you > there! > > If you have questions, please write to me at: > Bonnie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:54:52 -0500 > > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other, > had > some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section > breaks > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That > probably > is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too. > > > Prat > > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some > hard > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare > software > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly). > > Misha > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Guido Corona" > > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > > m> To > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > g Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > 01/07/2008 11:01 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Dan Beaver" > > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: To > > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > s.org > cc > > > > Subject > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:09:18 -0600 > > That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in > MS > Word / JFW? G. > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/07/2008 02:54 PM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > > > > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two > > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other, > had some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you > > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section > breaks > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That > probably is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages > > too. > > Prat > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the > > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some > hard > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare > software > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly). > > Misha > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > "Guido Corona" > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > m> To > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > bksvol-discuss-bo > cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > g Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > 01/07/2008 11:01 > AM > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@fr > eelists.org > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > "Dan Beaver" > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: To > > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > s.org > cc > > > Subject > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > again - how do we submit them? > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:53:06 -0500 > > Hi all, > > I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member > downloaded the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She > downloaded the DAISY format. She said that all she got was page > numbers. Has anyone read this book recently or downloaded it at all? > If it is indeed corrupt and not a munged download, it should probably > be removed or reencoded. The BRF file's fine, I downloaded that. > > TIA, > Ann P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > Portal Tutoring > EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.portaltutoring.info > "All that is gold does not glitter, > Not all those who wander are lost." > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:07:47 -0500 > > Dear Booksharian Friends > > I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with > > text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table > continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table > and > editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns > to > line up properly. > > Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a > find > to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book > I'll > be able to upload early this evening. > > Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in > Microsoft word. > > To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the > table, > press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text. > > This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting > information in > text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for > some > people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables > and > remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by > commas > or dashes or whatever. > > When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue > box > where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc. > There > is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start > of > information in the next column. > > I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and > > didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should > be, > but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might > > also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding > information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b. > > Thank you, Jamie! > > Always with love, > > Lissi > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:09:59 -0500 > > Hi Guido, > > > Word 2007 reports Section X of Y on the status bar if there are multiple > sections in a file. I don't recall 2003 reporting that info. But, try > Insert+PGDN (or JAWS+Page down). I must say Word 2007 is a lot better > at > reporting relevant info. If you don't find that info, try doing a > global > replace for ^b with ^m and see what's reported. If word manages to > replace > multiple occurrences, you can safely assume that it was the case. In > any > case, it doesn't hirt to replace section breaks with hard page breaks. > If > you do have multiple occurrences and manage to replace them, save the > file > and reopen it in Kurzweil 1000. Now Kurzweil 1000 should reportcorrect > number of pages. > > > > Prat > > > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:09 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > > That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in > MS > Word / JFW? G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able> http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > > "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 01/07/2008 02:54 PM > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > cc > > > > Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > > > > > > > > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other, > had > some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section > breaks > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That > probably > is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too. > > Prat > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some > hard > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare > software > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly). > > Misha > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? > > Hi Guido, > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the > character codes for the page breaks? > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead > > > > > > "Guido Corona" > > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx > m> To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo cc > > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > g Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > 01/07/2008 11:01 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@fr > eelists.org <http://eelists.org/> > > > > > > > > > > > All, I have just downloaded: > > > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, > > > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case, > some editors may not detect page breaks at all. > > > Guido > > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Research, > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > Austin Tx. > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." > [David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > "Dan Beaver" > > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: To > > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > s.org <http://s.org/> > cc > > > Subject > > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books > > again - how do we submit them? > > > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks > or > page numbers and no Copyright info included. > > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on? > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:25:25 -0500 > > Dear Jake, > I just found your message advising us to leave tables in tact. As long > as we don't mess with the content, if the tables are easier to read as > text, is it too bad a thing to convert them to text? Really, the tables > I get while validating often have errors which are a bear to tackle > within the table format, and I'd regret having to reconvert back to a > table after I corrected it because I think they are a nightmare for > visual readers, as in low vision visual readers... > > I'm asking permission to break the rules, but admit that if I don't get > it, I might go underground in good conscience. > > Always with love, > > Lissi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jake Brownell > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:06 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Clarification on Tables > > > Hi everyone, > > Recently there were some questions about tables in Bookshare books. > The Bookshare tools do in fact recognize tables, so please leave tables > in tact where there should be tables. The VM does mention tables as they > relate to scanning (in section 4), but I'll see if there is a better > place to mention it, perhaps in the section about cleaning up books, > which would apply to both scanners and validators. > > Sincerely, > Jake > > Jake Brownell > jakeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:28:00 -0500 > From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit > > Hi Guido, > > In the word find field enter a ^b to search for section breaks. If > you find them, which I kind of doubt you will since the books are > meant to be viewed on a computer screen, you can replace them with ^m > for a normal page break. I say a normal page break, as that's what > MS in its infinite wisdom decided to use when they pushed rtf. I > don't know why they felt the need to move away from the old ASCII > standard page break of ^l, but that's MS for you. > On another note look at all the folks that missed you when you > weren't here! It makes me think of that country western song, "How > can I miss you when you won't go away." > > Dave > > At 04:09 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: > >>That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' >>in MS Word / JFW? G. >> >> >>Guido Dante Corona >>IBM Research, >>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) >>Austin Tx. >>Phone: 512. 838. 9735. >>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx >>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able >> >>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right >>who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those >>who questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." >>[David Poyer, The Command] >> >> >> >>"Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> >>Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>01/07/2008 02:54 PM >>Please respond to >>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>To >><bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>cc >>Subject >>[bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? >> >> >> >> >>There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their >>page numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just >>downloaded two books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page >>breaks, the other, had some hard page breaks and other soft >>breaks. Guido, the version you downloaded, how many sections does >>Word report having in that file? I suspect that that particular >>book probably has the infamous section breaks that FR is so fond of >>inserting instead of hard page breaks. That probably is the reason >>why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too. >> >>Prat >> >> >>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:bksvol-discuss-boun > ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>On Behalf Of Michael Sestak >>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? >> >>The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to >>the first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe >>some hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the >>bookshare software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I >>don't think soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just >>puts them in on the fly). >> >>Misha >>----- Original Message ---- >>From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them? >> >>Hi Guido, >>Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does > it >>look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the >>character codes for the page breaks? >> >>Jim >> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >><mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change > the >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead >> >> >> >> >> "Guido Corona" >> <<mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxx >> >> m> > To >> Sent >> by: >> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> bksvol-discuss-bo > cc >> <mailto:unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx>unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> g > Subject >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books >> again - how do we submit them? >> 01/07/2008 11:01 >> AM >> >> >> Please respond to >> bksvol-discuss@fr >> <http://eelists.org/>eelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>All, I have just downloaded: >> >> >> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint, >> >> >>from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book > contains >>a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass > market >>edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to > sport >>page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, > while >>Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the > document >>may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the > case, >> some editors may not detect page breaks at all. >> >> >> Guido >> >> >> >>Guido Dante Corona >>IBM Research, >>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) >>Austin Tx. >>Phone: 512. 838. 9735. >>Email: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx >>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able >> >>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right > who >>were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who >>questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being > wise." >>[David Poyer, The Command] >> >> >> >>"Dan Beaver" >><<mailto:dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> >> >>Sent by: > To >>bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist >><<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >><http://s.org/>s.org >>cc >> >> > Subject >>01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books >> again - how do we submit > them? >> >> Please respond to >> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about >>submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page > breaks >>or >>page numbers and no Copyright info included. >> >>Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work > on? >> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >><mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-request@fre > elists.org >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list of >>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >><mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-request@fre > elists.org >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject line. >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: >>1/7/2008 9:14 AM > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:41:41 -0700 > > Thanks to Ann and her friend for letting us know about the bug. > > I checked the book and it reads fine in HTML, but not in Daisy. We've > removed the book, and Claire is ordering it so it can be scanned > in-house. > > Sorry to anyone who wanted to read the book right now, but we'll work on > putting the new copy up soon. > > Best, > > Allison Hilliker: > Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org). > E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx > www.bookshare.org----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road > > >> Hi all, >> >> I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member > downloaded >> the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She downloaded the > DAISY >> format. She said that all she got was page numbers. Has anyone read >> this book recently or downloaded it at all? If it is indeed corrupt > and >> not a munged download, it should probably be removed or reencoded. > The >> BRF file's fine, I downloaded that. >> >> TIA, >> Ann P. >> >> -- >> Ann K. Parsons >> Portal Tutoring >> EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.portaltutoring.info >> "All that is gold does not glitter, >> Not all those who wander are lost." >> >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "groups Warford" <groups_warford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's great > tip > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:32:20 -0500 > > Hi Lissi, > Thanks for pointing this out to all of us and for thinking of me. I > will > include it in my material. I hadn't seen Jamie's original post, but > then I > seem to be constantly behind these days. > > Thanks again, and take care! > Cindy W (Cindy 4) > > Start with the necessary and the possible, and you'll soon find you're > doing > the impossible. > -- St. Francis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:08 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip > > Dear Booksharian Friends > > I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with > > text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table > continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table > and > editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns > to > line up properly. > > Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a > find > > to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book > I'll > be able to upload early this evening. > > Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in > Microsoft word. > > To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the > table, > press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text. > > This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting > information in > > text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for > some > > people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables > and > > remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by > commas > or dashes or whatever. > > When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue > box > where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc. > There > is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start > of > information in the next column. > > I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and > > didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should > be, > but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might > > also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding > information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b. > > Thank you, Jamie! > > Always with love, > > Lissi > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:10:57 -0500 > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > I don't know about the 1260. If you're sure it's a 1260, I'd check the > Epson web site and forget the disc. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got > so >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue > is >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or > not >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a > freebie >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't > ned >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a > paper >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >> >> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded > for a >>>long time, at least the Perfection line. >>> >>> What model Epson? >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >>> >>> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out > help, >>> so >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't > take >>> up >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I > have >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine > if >>> i >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times > to >>> count >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let > me >>> know. >>> Thanks all. >>> Siobhan >>> >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: >>> 1/6/2008 >>> 11:57 AM >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:27:05 -0500 > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It sounds > to > me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You have two > different > scanners each of which has problems with the machine. I have no > knowlege > about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless, I have just downloaded the driver > > files from the Epson site. They are in an executable file which > self-extracts to a specific folder. After that, it either runs > automatically or you have to go to the folder and run the setup program. > If > you want the file, I'd be happy to send it to you as an attachment. > I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00 > P.M., > EST. > Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file. > > Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you connect > to > the front or back of the computer, what operating system do you use? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got > so >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue > is >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or > not >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a > freebie >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't > ned >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a > paper >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >> >> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded > for a >>>long time, at least the Perfection line. >>> >>> What model Epson? >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >>> >>> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out > help, >>> so >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't > take >>> up >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I > have >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine > if >>> i >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times > to >>> count >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let > me >>> know. >>> Thanks all. >>> Siobhan >>> >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: >>> 1/6/2008 >>> 11:57 AM >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM >> > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Maria Kristic" <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have scanned and > am worki > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:25 -0500 > > Hi all, > Below are five books which I have scanned, but I have yet to clean them > up > as much as I'd like to (including removing headers), so I won't put them > up > until I have. I go back to college next week, so I'm not sure exactly > when > I'll get them done, but I will, and I'm posting here because I don't > want > anyone to end up having duplicated scanning that's already been done. > Four > of them are off of the Wish List, and one is not. The one which isn't > is: > > Songs of the Humpback Whale, by Jodi Picoult > > The four from the Wish List are: > > Unspoken, by Lisa Jackson > > A Twist of Fate, by Lisa Jackson > > Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson > > Good Intentions, by Joy Fielding > > Thanks, > Maria > ________________________________________ > Maria Kristic > Skype: MariaKristic > AIM: MCKristic > E-Mail and MSN: <blocked::mailto:maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Google Talk: <blocked::mailto:Maria.Kristic@xxxxxxxxx> > Maria.Kristic@xxxxxxxxx > Yahoo Messenger: <blocked::mailto:mariakristic@xxxxxxxxx> > mariakristic@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:39:16 -0500 > From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice > > I think I know what she is referring to in respect to the 1260. I > have one but don't currently use it because it is so frigging slow, > but the autorun file that kicks in when you load the CD puts the user > in a screen that allows you to install drivers, software, > etc. Unfortunately, the screen is graphics based and doesn't talk or > provide any usable output. The way around this is to use either the > file from Epson's web site, which is actually a better choice as > they're newer drivers anyway, or to load the CD, exit the setup > screen, browse to the CD in Explorer, switch to the drivers folder, > and run the executable found there. The setup programs in the sub > folders talk fine, it's just the one that autoruns that stinks. > > Dave > > At 07:27 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >>To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It >>sounds to me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You >>have two different scanners each of which has problems with the >>machine. I have no knowlege about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless, >>I have just downloaded the driver files from the Epson site. They >>are in an executable file which self-extracts to a specific >>folder. After that, it either runs automatically or you have to go >>to the folder and run the setup program. If you want the file, I'd >>be happy to send it to you as an attachment. >>I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00 >>P.M., EST. >>Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file. >> >>Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you >>connect to the front or back of the computer, what operating system do > you use? >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan" > <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >> >> >>>Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I >>>got so frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after >>>clicking continue is inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson >>>perfection 1260 whether or not its a phone I don't kno. I've also >>>had it seven years, it was a freebie from dell years back hen I gt >>>this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax scanner that once installed >>>took so long the tech woman said youwon't ned it, ook it,nd when I >>>had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper weight. so >>>that's why I won't go for an eopson again. >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro" > <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice >>> >>> >>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly >>>>regarded for a long time, at least the Perfection line. >>>> >>>>What model Epson? >>>>Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people? >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan" > <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM >>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them > again. >>>>they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out > help, so >>>>unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a > brand >>>>hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't > take up >>>>room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I > have >>>>twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine > if i >>>>go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i >>>>haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped > there >>>>and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times > to count >>>>last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let > me know. >>>>Thanks all. >>>>Siobhan >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- >>>> >>>> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: > 1/6/2008 >>>>11:57 AM >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request > > Kelby > I am scanning your book and it is very difficult. I am trying to scan it > one page at a time b/c 2 at once wasn't working. It is taking a long > time and I have to delete a column on each page. I can't open the book > wide enough to do 2 pages at a time. DO you need this book or can > someone else scan this for you? I've done 150 pages and it doesn't even > look like I have put a dent in it as they say. what would you like me to > do? Would someone else like this book? It is not my nature to quit on a > book but this one is a pain. Do you really need this book and if so can > someone else please try to take it? Thank you > ANastasia > kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Booksharians, > > I am going to be doing a report/speech on fanaticism, extremism, > and terrorism in the U.S. I need to do some research for this > report, and was wondering if any of the following could be > scanned: > > Nazis, Communists, Klansmen, and Others on the Fringe: > Political Extremism in America by John George, and Laird Wilcox. > > The Farrakhan Phenomenon: Race, Reaction, and the Paranoid Style > in American Politics by Robert Singh. Harvest of Rage: Why > Oklahoma City Is Only the Beginning by Joel Dyer > > The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing Extremism in America, > 1790-1970 by Seymour Martin Lipset, Earl Raab. > > Kelby > > Doomed Dragon > > Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping? > > A: It is the universe exploding. > > "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we > choose to see it." > > "Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is > exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens." > > Psalm 148:13 > > "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your > presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my > bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the > dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your > hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast." > > Psalm 139:7-10 > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:52:05 -0600 > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site > > > Hi All, > > I am trying to upload a book to the admin queue. When I press browse > and > get the path, I get the error message: "The page you are looking for is > > unavailable. etc. Is anyone else having problems? > > Thanks, > > Sue S. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:00 -0800 (PST) > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning? > > Thank you Liz and Shelly for your encouragement. > I am hoping they will be uplifting books. Thanks for the support. > Anastasia > liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Please scan it! > Liz in PDX > > Liz Halperin > Portland, OR > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia > Saridakis > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning? > > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech > tragedy. I > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the > students > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took > his > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area > too? > Thank you. > > Anastasia > > > ________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > now. > HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > line. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it now. > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:58:35 -0500 > > Hi all, > > Alison, you going to write to booksfortheblind, or shall I? No sense > in writing twice. Please advise. > > Ann P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > Portal Tutoring > EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.portaltutoring.info > "All that is gold does not glitter, > Not all those who wander are lost." > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > ------------------------------ > > From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Thank You > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:12:50 -0500 > > Hi guys, > I just wanted to say thank you for all of the support you have sent my > way. It does help...a lot. I am still raw, but I know that with time I > will get better. I miss my mom horribly and I keep picking-up the phone > to speak to her. It kills me, but I will learn. She is being cremated > tomorrow, we are having a wake for all of her neighborhood friends on > Wednesday and a mass on Saturday. We will release her ashes by the > ocean afterwards. I hope my mom is happy where she is now. I hope she > knows that we all miss her and love her. > > Thank you all for being my friends. I will be off the loops for a bit > until I get myself together. I am sorry if I have not answered your > personal letters, but I just can't right now. I have received them and > have kept them all to remind me of all the support I have had from my > friends. > > Hugs, > > Maithe > > ------------------------------ > > End of bksvol-discuss Digest V5 #9 > ********************************** > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 > 10:16 AM > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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