[bksvol-discuss] Re: Converting Tables

  • From: "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:23:36 -0500

Hi Mayrie,

Yes, it did answer my question.  I’m leaving them alone.  Jamie is sighted and 
she would have known if they were not true tables.  Sorry for cluttering up the 
list.  (smile)

Sue S.


From: Mayrie ReNae 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:42 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Converting Tables

Hi Sue,

I don't understand your question, I'm sorry. And the table fixing options must 
be somewhere else in later versions of Word, and that's why you can't use the 
instructions I gave.  They must not apply to you.

Since you are using Jaws as your screen reader and Word, if you use the control 
plus alt key combination in conjunction with your arrow keys, you can, or 
should be able to, navigate between the cells of the table.  That might verify 
for you that what you see in each cell of the table is clear and readable.

Bookshare's conversion tools have handled tables successfully in the past, in 
my experience.  They just aren't always the preferable choice for everyone.  
I'd just leave them alone and see what happens once the book hits the 
collection.  If the tables are indeed tables, their content won't be run 
together later on.

That's the best I can do.  Did any of that answer your question?

I hope so.  If not, ask again, and I'll try to answer the right question.

Mayrie





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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:40 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Converting Tables


Hi Mayrie,

Are you saying that if I can see all the text, the Bookshare tool will fix them 
in order?  I can read it with my display, so will they look okay when the book 
hits the collection?  The book says they are tables, and I remember Jamie said 
Doug helped her with tables, so perhaps I am wrong in trying to fix them.  It 
doesn’t work anyway.  When I type alt a and then v, I get stuck.  I can’t tab 
or arrow or anything.  I don’t see any commas in the tables, though.  I just 
hope the tool doesn’t run them together.  

Thanks,

Sue S.


From: Mayrie ReNae 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:42 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Converting Tables

Hi Sue,

Well,  here's what I did and it seemed to work, though I didn't actually try  
to change a table to text.

Place your cursor somewhere in the table, anywhere inside the table is fine.
Press alt plus a to open the tables menu.
Press the letter v to get to the "convert" sub menu.
Tabbing here will give you options, the first is "convert to table", the second 
is "convert to text". 
Hit enter on " convert to text."
Now you should be sitting on a radio button that says "tabs". If you down arrow 
here, you'll see a radio button labeled "commas". If you tab from that button 
to "ok" and hit enter, your table should be now in a text format with the 
columns in the table now separated by a comma and a space.

We didn't choose "tabs" as Bookshare's conversion tools remove all tabs, and 
the text would have become run together if we chose that option. 

I think that's how the tables dialogue works anyway.

If that doesn't work, ask again!

Mayrie




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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:49 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Converting Tables


Hi folks,

The book I am proofing has some tables, and it is almost impossible to read the 
text, although the text is there.  Is there a way to get rid of the table 
symbols so that the text will be easily read?

I am working in MSWord 2010 with Jaws 12.

Thanks,
Sue S.


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