[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:50:24 -0500

Hi Robert and everyone!

Some books seem to have the dots of the elipsis closer than others so that some appear as Robert has described with space between each dot and others have them bumped up against each other, which, in both cases is recognized by the OCR according to the particular book, meaning there is either spacing some elipsis dots out, while others have that togetherness I have noticed. Most elipses seem to be spaced out in books, it seems, making us fix them to meet braille standards.

I can't remember for sure what I have done when there is an elipsis within a sentence, but it's either no space before or after it so both ends are bumped up against the words before and after it or a space before and after it as Robert does. I believe I have seen it both ways in braille.

Debby

At 04:38 PM 5/26/2010, robert tweedy wrote
The only thing I have seen is . . .
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxx>Jill O'Connell
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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

I may not be correct about this because I think this is what I have observed with my limited vision, that print books only have three periods even if the first one really represents a period. If I am right, in such a case I put a period, space and then three periods with no spaces in between. Have any of the rest of you observed this as well?
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From: <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>Mayrie ReNae
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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

Hi Bob and everyone,

I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual. It has a copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since. However, it does state that spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis, except when the elipsis is followed by a punctuation mark, which should follow the elipsis without a space.

This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize if my previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has misled anyone.

The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another space does not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf. Thank goodness!

Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of that obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone.

Mayrie




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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the outcome. It's really up to the Braille users since it effects them more.

Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis.

Bob
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From: <mailto:mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>EVAN REESE
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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in front, you shouldn't put one after it either.

Evan

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Lori Castner
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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses

I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again.
In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a space before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three dots, but it does not state what to do after the third dot if the ellipsis occurs in the middle of a sentence as it often does. Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to be sure to handle them correctly.

Thanks.
Lori C.



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