This is a case where I would love to change the text, though, and make it more visually accessible and perhaps more uniform for Braille if we were told that is permissible. It is very confusing to the eye and easily misinterpreted, IMHO. Thanks! Valerie From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn I Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:13 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Formatting question re ellipsis. I know exactly what you're saying. Backstairs at the White House is not the only book I've seen like this. I'm leaving it exactly like it is, since I know you took great care in scanning it. *smile* Blessings. Lynnsky _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:49 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Formatting question re ellipsis. Hi, Lynn! I am really thrown by this, too. Ironically the book you are working on and the one I just finished never had spaces between any punctuation and an ellipsis, so I left it unspaced. There were even occurrences of a question mark or comma followed by an ellipsis or an ellipsis followed by a question mark. To me, it should be situational and there should be a space between ellipses and additional punctuation, but until I have permission, I do it as it appears. Further complicating matters is some of the books I scan have spaces before, after or both with ellipses, and then none, too. What's a girl to do? Grin. Valerie On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Lynn I wrote: Thanks Kim, Mayrie, Evan and anyone I forgot to mention. *smile* I've been looking at the ellipsis/four period issue in context and will continue to do just that. Thanks again to everyone who responded. Blessings. Lynnsky _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of EVAN REESE Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:04 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Formatting question re ellipsis. I don't think it matters all that much. The way they usually scan for me is with no spaces at the end of a sentence. The braille translator seems to render this as having the ellipsis followed by the period. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn I <mailto:lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bookkshare <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> volunteer list Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:03 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Formatting question re ellipsis. Hi Everyone! I know we've had several discussions on this subject and don't wish to open a Pandora's box again.... However, I'm wondering if there should still be no spaces when you have a sentence with a period, plus and ellipsis? I am proofreading two books that have four periods, (an ellipsis followed by a period). Should there be a space after the period? What's confusing is whether the ellipsis actually occurs before the period or whether it occurs after it. Hope that makes sense. I'm asking because I want to be consistent; and be sure that I and the Braille translator handle the situation correctly. *smile* Thank you. Blessings. Lynnsky No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.95/2546 - Release Date: 12/05/09 02:13:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.95/2546 - Release Date: 12/05/09 02:13:00