[bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers

  • From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:45:57 -0500

Thanks.
I encluded that request in a message to Kurzweil recently, too.  Since they
know you, I am sure your request will get attention just a tiny bit better
than mine, and more than one squawk can't hurt. <bg>

Sarah Van Oosterwijck
curious entity at earthlink dot net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guido Corona" <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers


> Sarah,  I have a call into K to request the info.  If the feature is not
> available,  I will suggest it.
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> G.
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> Guido D. Corona
> IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
> IBM Research,
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> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:
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> "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Do you know if there is a way to type a character to represent a page
> break
> in the Kurzweil search dialog?  i have looked for such a thing in the
> manual, but I didn't find it.  I can only find directions for finding new
> line and tab characters.  It would greatly reduce the work involved in
> removing those headers semi-manually if that were possible, and now I know
> that manual, or semi-manual, removal seems to be the only alternative.
>
> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> curious entity at earthlink dot net
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guido Corona" <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:41 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers
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> > By the way,  the Kurzweil stripper is over eager as well.  I prefer to
> > strip my headers manually even on Kurzweil.  I.e.  I manually remove
> > repeating words in page headers,  but leave and repair page numbers and
> > try to do repair any corrupted chapter headers,  including the word
> > 'CHAPTER'.
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> > Guido D. Corona
> > IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
> > IBM Research,
> > Phone:  (512) 838-9735
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at:
> > http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html
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> > "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 06/11/2004 11:27 AM
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> > Grrr!  It seems that bookshare's header stripper has a slightly
> different
> > idea about what headers are, and it isn't acceptable.  It probably
> > wouldn't
> > strip if the chapters had titles, but they only had the word chapter and
> > the
> > number.  When I read with Kurzweil it did seem to read properly once I
> > fixed
> > them.  It read chapter and skipped the title or author that was on the
> top
> > of every page.
> > Now i wonder what I can do to solve the problem.  I don't want Kurzweil
> to
> > do the stripping because it would be best if the page numbers stayed at
> > least until validation.  I also don't like experimenting, because a lot
> of
> > things can be messed up before you ever know what happened in the end,
> and
> > it takes a lot of time for the whole process to be completed. <sigh>
> > Any ideas, anyone?
> >
> > Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> > curious entity at earthlink dot net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:51 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers
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> > > Sarah,
> > > Indeed it is Survivors' Quest.  There are no page headers, which I
> > > appreciate, but, so far, no chapter headers either.
> > >
> > > I am going by what Kurzweil tech once told me, that a header is
> defined
> > as
> > a
> > > line at the top of the page, followed by a blank line.
> > > I thought putting a blank line or two before a chapter heading would
> to
> > the
> > > trick, but now you've got me worried.
> > > Tracy
> > >
> > > At 10:31 AM 6/11/04 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >I just want to make sure the book you are reading is not Star Wars
> > > >Survivor's Quest, which I submitted, because that would mean that my
> > > >attention to the headers did not succeed.  I have started making sure
> > that
> > > >there is a blank line after each page header, and that every header
> is
> > > >against the top of the page.  I put one blank line between the top of
> > the
> > > >page and a chapter heading.  If page numbers are at the bottum of the
> > page I
> > > >put a blank line between the last line of text and the page number. I
> > want
> > > >to make sure this method works all right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Headers
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> > > >
> > > >> I'm going to talk again about headers.  I think it's very important
> > to
> > go
> > > >> through and put a blank line or two between the top of a page and a
> > > >chapter
> > > >> title.  I am reading a Star Wars book (and enjoying it very much,
> > thanks!)
> > > >> and all the chapter headings are missing.  I think that the chapter
> > title
> > > >> was at the top of the page, followed by a blank line, so
> Bookshare's
> > > >> automatic header-deleter flagged it as a header and deleted it.  In
> > this
> > > >> particular book, it's no big deal, but in books with meaningful
> > chapter
> > > >> headings, or a book needed for school, it could make a significant
> > > >difference.
> > > >> Tracy
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