I have a similar question. What if a scanner did not include image descriptions? The synopsis indicates that there are images taken from a movie, and the table of contents lists maps. If the scanner of the book that I checked out is not able to describe images, should I release the book in order for a sighted proofreader to work on it? Chanelle From: Mayrie ReNae Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:25 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Image Descriptions Hi Lori, Descriptions of images should be included any time you are able and feel like describing them! We can't include the images at this time, but can definitely include the descriptions of them! I'm sorry your question didn't get answered in a satisfactory way the first time that you asked. Please, ask again if I've been unclear here. Also, the format for image descriptions is something like this: [Image removed: Picture of a dog licking a child's ice cream cone.] The description will obviously be different if you are describing something like a chart, or graph, but the format is the same. Another example: [Image removed: Chart demonstrating the life cycle of a butterfly.] There is a lot of room for alteration, but I think you get the idea. Sorry again that you didn't get the right answer the first time that you asked! Mayrie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lori kaltenbronn Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:36 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Image Descriptions I'm a new scanner and I'm confused about the discussion of image descriptions. When I asked about adding image descriptions, I was told not to include them because the images couldn't be "handled" at this time. Please explain when image descriptions should be included. Thanks Lori On May 2, 2012 2:18 PM, "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Tracy, I understand your frustration! There are circumstances, in addition to personal life events, when a book will be checked out for months where there is nothing the proofreader can do to speed up the proofreading. I just had three books that I had checked out for months, two of them quite short. One of them had problems with the scan. It is missing just one page. I could just reject it, but the person who scanned it promised me that they will get the page. They haven't yet. Other volunteers have tried to get the book through library loans, and no one can find it, and it's too expensive to buy a copy on ebay, amazon or abebooks, and no one has a sneak peak of it. It's very frustrating, as the scanner did an excellent job on this book except for the missing page, but if they don't get the page soon (I've been waiting months, as I said), I'm going to end up rejecting the book. It's already been returned to checkout by several proofreaders, so I'm the end of the line for it. I also had several books checked out to proofread where I was waiting for other volunteers to get copies of the books from their interlibrary loan programs so we can do image descriptions, as the person who scanned the book really would like them described for the children who will read them. The books just came in for the other volunteers who are helping me. In one case it took almost four months for them to get the books through their interlibrary loan services. Sometimes it takes even longer! So all I can do is wait. I send an email to the scanner when this sort of thing is going on, so they know what is happening with their book. I know there are circumstances where people seem to just sit on books, though, and I sure wish they wouldn't! It's terribly frustrating to have a book disappear into a black hole! smile. Judy On 5/2/2012 11:36 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote: The big problem I see with keeping books for a long time is that the submitter has probably returned the book to the library, or sold it, or lost it, so doesn't have a way to answer questions about it. Tracy The big problem I see about keeping books for a year, is that the submitter may need those credits for a subscription. Sue S. -----Original Message----- From: Mayrie ReNae Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:26 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Poseidon's Gold Hi Tracy, As I am a guilty party, having renewed one of the books that I currently have checked out for a year, I will tell you why I at least am doing what I'm doing. The book that I have checked out needs image descriptions if it is to be used properly, which I can and am providing. Unfortunately, because I'm working and in poor health, I don't get to my volunteering as regularly or for as large of chunks of time as I'd like. So, I just hope that folks will be patient with me, and appreciate the book once I finish with it. I agree with you, by the way, I've had this book for waaaay too long. Thanks for the kick in the butt. In my case, it's warranted. fifteen minutes of work three days a week would make a huge difference, and I intend to give the book that on the weekends, starting this weekend. I won't presume to speak for anyone else, but I am glad for your reminder that I personally need to try harder, and that I can indeed do that. It'll feel great to finish the book that I've been so lovingly creeping my way through. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:04 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Poseidon's Gold Last November, I submitted Poseidon's Gold, a Marcus Didius Falco mystery. I read it, spell-checked it, fixed the chapter headings and the page numbers--all the stuff I usually do. I think someone could have jiffy-proofed it, and it would have been fine. It's been checked out since then, almost all the time, but it still hasn't made it to the collection. What's the hold up? Tangentially, I really do not understand why someone faithfully renews a book, sometimes for a whole year, and then lets it go. When I grab a book, it's done in about 3 weeks, usually, though I just had one that took 7 weeks. Are people just hanging on to things, hoping to get to it, but never actually making it that far? It baffles me. 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