[bksvol-discuss] Re: Kipling's--and others'--poetry

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:48:25 -0700 (PDT)

Really? People were saying they preferred paragraph
indenting to skipped spaces between paragraphs, and
sometimes skipping lines, especially if there's a lot
of dialogue, gives pagination problems, even when I
try to length the page.

Then there's no way to format poetry?

Would you please download And Still I Rise, by Maya
Angelou, and also Silk, by Baricco and tell me what
they look like? Or sound like? Silk isn't a poem but
was written sort of like one so I validated it keeping
the author's line lengths. I think I used tabs,
though. I didn't know about adjusting line length
using the line indentation setting in paragrpahs in
the format file.

I can't think of any poems I've done recently except
for quotations as part of something else. Perhpas if
you have time you could download Transit of Venus and
check page 81 and see if the quotation at the bottom
of the page is indented.

Maye fixing things so tabbing doesn't appear should be
put higher up on the Wish List. Amy's right about the
importance of poetry being formatted correctly,
especially for students. I wonder what the Chinese
poetry I did a few years ago looks like--and I spent
so much time trying to get that right. sigh

Cindy



> 
> You'll probably find that paragraph indenting is
> gone as well.
> 
> Jake
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:01 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Kipling's--and
> others'--poetry
> 
> 
> > Amy,
> >
> > If you can submit it in rtf I can format poetry as
> the
> > author intended.
> >
> > Before I used tabs, but quite a bit after that we
> were
> > told that tabs don't do any good. Too bad, because
> > that was so easy. However, there is a way, though
> it
> > takes longer, to re-set the line margin. I'd use
> the
> > space bar, which would be easier, but somebody
> > mentioned that  the spaces are annoying. Is that
> just
> > for those of you who listen, or also for those of
> you
> > who use braille? Is there a way you can turn off
> > whatever is annoying about the spaces? Using
> spaces to
> > indent lines of poetry would be so much easier,
> less
> > time-consuming, than using the line setting. smile
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > --- Amy Goldring Tajalli
> > <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> amen.  I looked for Kipling and there was only
> one
> >> volume very well recorded
> >> but when I wanted to hear it again It had
> >> disappeared.  I got rfb to record
> >> what turned out to be the complete kipling but
> then
> >> had to deal with people
> >> reading poetry with no real knowledge of how to
> do
> >> it and with difficulty
> >> pronouncing some of the Names and names of places
> -
> >> understandable if you
> >> are not familiar with India or 19th Century
> British
> >> army terminology. Though
> >> even today I would guess it would not be hard to
> >> find kids who have read the
> >> poetry in The Jungle Books or the Just So Stories
> or
> >> their parents, too. I
> >> appreciate the work rfb volunteers went through
> to
> >> record that tome but I
> >> wanted the poems as he wrote them so I scanned
> the
> >> book with Kurzweil and am
> >> now trying to make sure the poems scan properly
> >> (scan as in lines as K wrote
> >> them  of the length he wanted them).  I may have
> to
> >> submith the Kurzweil
> >> copy which scan (copied) the pages correctly but
> >> they don't always come out
> >> that way and I was warned that theBookshare
> computer
> >> would ignore the lines
> >> much as they did in other books of poetry I have
> >> gotten but I can only try
> >> to get someone to realize the importanct of the
> >> lines. However, I have hopes
> >> even If I cannot do it.  In any event it has to
> be
> >> better, even with a
> >> computer voice, that what I heard. in the well
> meant
> >> recording.
> >>
> >> Amy
> >> omst
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Shelley L. Rhodes"
> <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:25 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] NLS's Taopes and
> >> electronic files
> >>
> >>
> >> > Someone, I believe it was on here was wondering
> >> why we should work on
> >> > books
> >> > already recorded on cassette by NLS.
> >> >
> >> > I have a story to tell and how to illustrate a
> >> good advantage for doing
> >> > just
> >> > that.
> >> >
> >> > I borrowed from my local cooperating branch a
> copy
> >> of
> >> >
> >> > Rilla of Ingleside.
> >> >
> >> > It arrived her the other day and I popped it
> into
> >> the player, have been
> >> > wanteding to read this and had Just finished
> >> Rainbow valley.
> >> >
> >> > Well... the tape was old, and warped, and no
> >> matter all the "usual"
> >> > tricks,
> >> > I couldn't get the tape to play properly.
> >> >
> >> > So... after being disgusted by it, putting it
> back
> >> into its little green
> >> > box, slapping the string on the latch and
> thinking
> >> I would call them today
> >> > about it, I had a brainstorm.
> >> >
> >> > I got online, found Rilla of Ingleside in the
> >> Bookshare collection and
> >> > grabbed it, popped it into the book courier and
> >> all was well again.
> >> >
> >> > I do like listening to human readers though
> some
> >> of them are quite grating
> >> > on me, but I still like the flexibility of
> >> choosing what format works best
> >> > for me.
> >> >
> >> > Smile.
> >> >
> >> > This isn't the first time this has happened,
> >> but... it was the most
> >> > recent.
> >> >
> >> > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> >> > and Judson, guiding golden
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> >> >
> >> > Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> >> > Puppies are the joy at one end.
> >> > Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> >> > Carolyn Alexander
> >> >
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