Yep, I'm outa here. haha. What I'm wondering is if the person who submitted the book, Leaving the Body, a Complete Guide to Astril Projection by Scott Rogo could resubmit it in either text or .rtf format. I was going to read and validate it, it's an .ark file, and my latest version of Open Book said, "please note, unexpected format", and wouldn't open it. I tried it in Ruby as well and the same thing happened, and so I released it. Maybe somebody with the latest version of Open Book can access it, I don't know. Since it is an .ark file, I should be able to access it regardless of the verssion, but that has been just one more disappointment with Open Book. Pam