[bksvol-discuss] Re: More Questions about proofreading.
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:44:20 -0800
Thanks, Madeleine, but what do you mean section breaks are handled the same
way as page breaks? (even your addendum isn't clear to me, smile. they are
retained as section breaks? Or they are converted to page breaks? (the
latter doesn't make sense as they have a different purpose; therefore, if
section breaks are retained as section breaks, and we don't want them (in
my experience they separate text into columns) we need to change them
ourselvs to manual page beaks ( easy to do with a find and replace.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Madeleine Linares
<Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Hi Judy and everyone,
>
> So sorry for my delayed response. I wanted to confirm a few things with
> our other staff.
>
> I have always been told that section breaks and page breaks were handled
> in the same way. I never knew that you guys didn't know that! I'm very
> sorry about this. For this reason I have no idea when that information
> changed but I would imagine it happened sometime before I started.
>
> As for getting more information, I completely agree! We have not been able
> to get any more information about the converter yet unfortunately. Believe
> me, it's as important to us in-house and it's something we're working hard
> to find out.
>
> Here is what I've been told about the things you've mentioned:
>
> Section breaks and page breaks are treated the same way.
> Tabs are not recognized and extra blank spaces are removed (tabs are just
> treated as one blank space).
> Extra blank lines are removed (which is one of the reasons why we use the
> three asterisks to show breaks in the text since trying to put in extra
> lines to show that break won't work).
> Page numbers should be consistent throughout the text but they can be at
> the top or at the bottom of the page.
> M-dashes should not have spaces around them.
>
> I definitely hear all of your concerns and I do understand your
> frustration in not having concrete answers. I am equally frustrated and
> doing my best to get some answers. In the meantime, thanks for asking
> questions and I hope to provide you with better answers soon.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Madeleine Linares
> Volunteer Coordinator
> Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
> 650-644-3459
> madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:46 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More Questions about proofreading.
>
> When did it change that section breaks don't need to be changed to page
> breaks? Last I'd heard a book was rejected if it was uploaded to the
> approval queue with section breaks instead of page breaks.
>
> It would be incredibly helpful if us volunteers had a current list of what
> the conversion tool can handle. smile. We've been told, for example, that
> it can convert:
>
> m-dashes
> tabs to a blank space
> strip extra blank lines
> move page numbers from bottom of page to top of page apparently section
> breaks get converted to page breaks
>
> What else?
>
> Judy s.
>
> On 11/15/2013 1:04 PM, Madeleine Linares wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Illustrations should be removed. We unfortunately cannot process books
> with images at this time, though it is something we are working towards.
> You should delete them. If any have captions included in the image itself,
> the captions should be retyped and placed in brackets.
> >
> > Section breaks are fine, and our converter handles them exactly the same
> as page breaks. You do not need to worry about converting them to page
> breaks.
> >
> > Please let me know if you still have questions about this book. To
> > post to the discussion list, simply send an email to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > As for Poet, we are currently not giving out book ID numbers to
> individuals. We're actually restructuring the volunteer process at the
> moment in order to get entire books completed with the highest quality
> image descriptions. Right now we're only working with groups of people, but
> I'll let you know when we've figured how to manage the individual
> volunteers and their work. I apologize that this is taking so long. We are
> working hard to make sure that this new structure is the most productive
> and sustainable, so it is taking some time to hash that out.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Madeleine
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Siewert [mailto:jesiewert@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:41 PM
> > To: Madeleine Linares
> > Subject: More Questions about proofreading.
> >
> > Hello again. I hope I'm not seeming too out of touch. I have started
> looking at a book to proof read.
> > I decided, since I don't have any pre-ordained preferences, to work on
> the books which have been on the list the longest.
> >
> > The book I chose was:
> >
> > Dental Computing and Applications: Advanced Techniques for Clinical
> Dentistry
> > By Andriani Daskalaki.
> >
> > Two items popped out immediately.
> >
> > First, in general , I noticed, since Word 2003 initially brings the book
> up in Print view, that there are a large number of illustrations, mostly
> drawings and photos in this case. My first question is how do I handle
> these? The drawings don't show in 'normal' mode, but the captions
> generally do.
> >
> > Second, the book has no page breaks, only various section breaks.
> >
> > Near the top of the book is this sequence:
> > -----------------------
> > Section break (Next Page)
> >
> > 6 lines of text
> >
> > Column break
> >
> > Multiple lines of text one letter at a time
> >
> > Section break (continuous)
> >
> >
> > --------
> > If I look at it in print mode, the 6 lines of text is a column and the
> multiple lines of text resolve themselves into a second column aligned with
> the 6 lines.
> >
> > When I change the section breaks to page breaks and remove the column
> break and try to re-arrange the text from the two columns, I can't save the
> document successfully. Word gives me a warning about breaking up columns
> and the resulting saved document is corrupt.
> >
> > Does this make the book rejectable?
> >
> > Should I put this question out the the discussion group? How exactly
> do I
> > do that? I've been getting the digest, but I'm not sure how to submit.
> >
> > Also, I still do not see anything on the POET website which allows me to
> find books to work on.
> >
> > Jim Siewert
> >
> >
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