[bksvol-discuss] Re: Optional Hyphens

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:59:03 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, thanks for the information. Interesting.

 
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> From: Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:01 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Optional Hyphens
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>Thanks for this explanation!  They are a pain to listen to! But now I know 
>what causes them to exist.
>
>Lori C.
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "misha" <mishatronics@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:59 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Optional Hyphens
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>> Using ^- in find in MS Word removes only optional hyphens.  One of the 
>> things I do after scanning is remove all optional hyphens.
>> 
>> Real hyphens are a separate character from optional hyphens.  Optional 
>> hyphens are a character used by MS Word that doesn't display if the word 
>> they are part of is in the middle of a line, but if the word is near the 
>> margin, and the program can fill up closer to the margin by splitting the 
>> word than by moving the whole word to the next line, then it will split the 
>> word and display a hyphen at the end of the first part of the word.
>> 
>> So, optional hyphens are like the soft page breaks, they are a function of 
>> how the program works and what the margins and page size are.  But, for 
>> those using screen readers with "read all punctuation" turned on, all those 
>> pesky optional hyphens will be read. The screen reader is just going through 
>> the text reading everything it finds.  It doesn't know about margins and 
>> whether the optional hyphen will be displayed or not, it is there so the 
>> reader says "optional hyphen."
>> 
>> And finally, they are usually put in by the OCR program when it finds a real 
>> hyphen at the margin of a line of text so the hyphen won't be displayed if 
>> you change the page size and that part of the word is no longer at the 
>> margin.  It's quite a nice feature for making OCRed text look better, but 
>> ... if you are not "looking" at the text, maybe not so nice a feature.
>> 
>> Misha
>> 
>> On 4/12/2012 5:27 PM, Sue Stevens wrote:
>>> I repeat, Mayrie.  Wouldn’t that fix remove all hyphens, such as in Cindy’s 
>>> example of mother-in-law?
>>> Sue S.
>>> *From:* Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:16 PM
>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Optional Hyphens
>>> Hi Lori,
>>> Thanks for giving me another thing to add to the manual!
>>> To remove optional hyphens, I think that you do this:
>>> Open find and replace dialogue by pressing control+h
>>> In the find box type ^-
>>> In the replace box type nothing
>>> Tab to "okay" and press enter.
>>> I think that's what Jamie taught me to do.
>>> Hope I've remembered correctly.
>>> Happy proofreading, and I hope you enjoy your new computer!
>>> Mayrie
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>>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lori Castner
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:04 PM
>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Optional Hyphens
>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>> I am proofreading a book that is loaded with optional hyphens.  I believe 
>>> that we are not required to remove them, but I would like to do so, but 
>>> can't find instructions for doing so in the manual.
>>> Can anyone tell me the process for removing these hyphens?
>>> I'm going to be getting a new computer in several weeks but found this 
>>> fairly short book I can complete proofreading before then, so hope I can 
>>> remove these hyphens.
>>> Lori C.
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