[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ot: Pronouncing Guinevere (was Re: Re: O_T Introducing Guinevere)
- From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:44:37 -0400
Evan,
Nor was I (see red below) and I apologize about the Guinness - my mistake, I
should have looked it up. If I knew how to teach Kurzweil's reader how to
pronounce name he would not mispronounce Hermione so badly that my memory
refuses to hold it in its files and I only remember it when I here him
mispronounce it. It is like chalk on a blackboard. I love the origin of
Guinevere and learned if first from Mary Stewart and then Wikipedia but as I
have a cat named Ygraine I should have looked it up long before even Stewart. I
was just tweaking your answer and was not meaning any of my answer as
criticism. I used to think the BBC was the authority on pronunciation of names
but since I started watching their news regularly on PBS I have been sadly
disillusioned. One should never take my too seriously - I don't. Sorry,
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ot: Pronouncing Guinevere (was Re: Re: O_T
Introducing Guinevere)
Amy,
I'm not qualified to debate your etymology, but Guinness Stout is a very
famous Irish beer, whatever the origin of the word "Guinness". That is
indisputable.
I wasn't being totally serious anyway. But since her speech program
pronounced the g u i n combination correctly in Guinevere, I was simply
wondering how it would pronounce g u i n in the case of Guinness, since the
same letter combination is not pronounced the same in the two words. Would the
speech program know to pronounce the same letter combination differently? For
instance, my JAWS says Guinness correctly, but not Guinevere. I was only have
serious when I suggested that if her speech says Gwinevere correctly, perhaps
it would say Gwinness.
That is all.
Evan
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----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ot: Pronouncing Guinevere (was Re: Re: O_T
Introducing Guinevere)
Evan,
If you could only teach your reader - Guinness is Scots and Guinevere is
Old English or The Old Welsh which is the derivation of the name coming from
the word Gwenhwyfar meaning white phantom or white elf or even referring to the
Great white owl though by that I don't know if that is a great Snowy Owl or a
Great Horned Owl which is a phantom or spirit and therefore pale or white. Do
we have any members from Wales? My welsh is non-existent but Mary Stewart says
that the Gwenhwyfar may be a real Owl or a phantom but the one we see in The
Hollow Hills is both, the real one and a foreshadow of things to come as it is
a warning. In any event I don't doubt that Shelley's Gwenna is a very real
angel.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ot: Pronouncing Guinevere (was Re: Re: O_T
Introducing Guinevere)
>I was wondering if DecTalk Access 32 pronounces Guinevere correctly, how
> does it pronounce Guinness, the famous Irish stout. <grin>. My JAWS with
> Eloquence says Ghinni Vere but it pronounces Guinness correctly. So if
> DecTalk says Gwinivere, does it say Gwinness?
>
> Evan
>
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> From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:46 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: O_T Introducing Guinevere
>
>
>> Congratulations, Shelley! BTW, with the DecTalk Access 32 software,
Jaws
>> pronounces Guinevere's name correctly. Just another synthesizer quirk,
I
>> guess. <Smile> Hope you and Guinevere are enjoying your first days home!
>>
>> Jana
>>
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>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:18 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: O_T Introducing Guinevere
>>
>>
>>> Shelley, congratulations on Guinevere. I see what you mean about JAWS
>>> and its pronunciation. <smile>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>> We missed you, Shelley.
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