Hi Bob, When validating in Word, you want to look for what Word calls an "optional hyphen". This means that if a word wraps across a line, the optional hyphen will appear at the end of the line. To search for this: 1) Press ctrl/H to go to the find and replace box. 2) In the "find" box enter carat dash "^-". Once you find it you can replace with whatever you want. In order to create this optional hyphen yourself, position the cursor where you want the hyphen to be. Then type <CTRL+->, control dash. If this doesn't make sense, let me know. Maybe we can get together in the room. I have a Word document with the different types of dashes, how to create those dashes and how to find them. I will be glad to send that to anyone who is interested. Hope this helps. Cindy 4 -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:55 AM To: bookshare volunteer discussion Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Pesky hyphens I am currently reading "No Birds Sing" by Jo Bannister from the collection. Can you imagine that validators actually read books for pleasure after slaving over a hot text editor for hours at a time? I'm sure you can. However, one cannot help but bring the skills acquired as a validator to the books one reads for pleasure. Henceforth, my tongue-in-cheek mantra shall be "The unexamined book is not worth reading", with appropriate apologies to Mr. Socrates. Firstly, this particular book is a really good scan/validation, and my comments are not meant as criticism to those who worked on it. Instead, I want to offer thanks to this unknown team and to Bookshare for making it available. However, (you knew that was going to happen, didn't you?) throughout the book I observed a number of occurrences of words split without hyphens, where hyphens used to be. read able and pass able, for examples. I suspect what happened was that a tool was applied which took the hyphens off of the end of lines. Unfortunately, this tool did not join the hyphenated word's parts as it should have. It merely got rid of the hyphen. I don't really have a solution to this problem. I use Kurzweil, and it's apply corrections tool takes care of this handily. Does anyone have a solution using Microsoft word? If so, this solution could be applied while we are changing section breaks to page breaks. I looked on the tips section of Jake's site and there was a tip for fixing the problem in Kurzweil, but not Ms Word. I tried a small experiment in word splitting a word "happi- ly" And did a find on "-^l" for a hyphen followed by a new line character. Unfortunately, word did not find my little experiment. I'm not sure what's going on there. Does anyone know how hyphens at the end of the line might be found and fixed? Thanks, Bob "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."--Margaret Mead To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.