[bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 00:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
My understanding is that the stripper will only, theoretically, strip
repetitions. Theoretically headers are repeated, i.e., the same. In fact, they
are not, because they seldom scan perfectly, which is why they remain and we
have to strip them or they stay to annoy readers. The first lines of pages are
seldom identical to each other.
I guess the reason the page numbers get stripped with the headers is because
the header repeated, though you'd think the page numbere being different would
stop that--but I guess it's like a vacuum cleaner and the stripper just gobbles
up everything on the line with the header. The word chapter, if it's the first
line, is repeated, even though the number changes, so t gets gobbled up with
the number.
We've been trying to do away with the stripper forever, it seems. Apparently it
has another function, something to do with Daisy pagination. You'd think our
clever engineers could solve that problem. Maybe if Jake spends the summer
working in Palo Alto he can fix it.
G.Cindy
> From: Devorah Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, May 8, 2008, 7:10 PM
> Okay, what I don't understand is if I'm validating a
> book with page
> numbers are at the bottom (which I'm doing now), why
> the Stripper does
> not strip away the top line of text on every page if it so
> determinedly
> chomps away a chapter name which only looks like a line of
> text to the
> Stripper. (I think capitalizing the 'S' in Stripper
> makes it sound more
> animate and intentional.)
>
> Why don't I have to protect the top line of text if I
> have to put
> asterisks or other junk text above a chapter name that only
> appears
> once?
>
> Devorah
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Mike
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:03 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter
> anemes/page numbers
>
> If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page you
> definitely have to
>
> put something like the *********** at the top of pages with
>
> section/chapter/story names (as the first reader found out
> all too
> painfully from a book I recently validated *groan*).
>
> You would think this stripper would know that the first
> time a new
> header comes up it is a title to be kept. But no, it's
> outa there with
> that title unless you give it something else above the
> title to remove.
>
> Also, if there is a page number with nothing else on the
> same line at
> the top of the page, that too will protect chapter names.
>
> Misha
>
>
> Shelley Rhodes wrote:
> > Good response Cindy,
> >
> > I also put a row of ********* above the Chapter title,
> to give um, the
> > stripper something to eat so it leaves my chapter
> numbers alone!
> >
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
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> >
> > "Courage is not being without fear,
> > but courage is to go forward in spite of
> > fear."
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy"
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:50 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter
> anemes/page numbers
> >
> >
> > Sigh. Mary Anne, I was hoping someone else would reply
> to your
> question, but
> > no one has so far, so here goes. (I say that because I
> don't explain
> things
> > as clearly as some others do).
> >
> > Bookshare has automatic stripper (which we all keep
> hoping will strip
> itself
> > and disappear). It's intended to automatically
> delete headers, but it
> > doesn't do a very good job of that. It's
> intended, I think, to take
> out
> > words that are repeated exactly, on the first line,
> and so it will
> delete
> > the word Chapter unless something is put on the line
> in front of the
> word. I
> > think it takes out page numbers if the header is on
> the same line. So
> we who
> > scan or validate usually remove the headers by
> oursleves, put a line
> space
> > and then the page number and then another space, and
> thus, because the
> page
> > number is always different on every page, the word
> chapter, which is
> usually
> > a couple of lines below the page number, is preserved.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> >
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Protecting chapter
> anemes/page numbers
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Thursday, May 8, 2008, 7:12 AM
> >> Could someone please explain what is meant by
> protecting
> >> chapter names and
> >> page numbers? I've seen this but can't
> find what
> >> it means. I'm in the
> >> process of scanning a few books for submission so
> I'd
> >> like to do it right.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mary Anne Lynskey
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