[bksvol-discuss] Re: Rise And Fall Of The 3rd Reich
- From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Anne, I did not realize there has been such a significant language
drift since the late 50s--which is when the book was written. . . very
amusing indeed! G.
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
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". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]
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Hi all,
Guido, you have encountered another English phrase whose meaning has
changed over the years. The verb "to arouse" actually used to mean to
awaken. Notice the dictionary definition below. Nowadays, the word is
used to connote sexual awakening, if you will. This meaning has become
the most frequent usage instead of the original connotation. <smiling>
Yes, it is funny, to be sure!
3 definitions found
>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48
[gcide]:
Arouse \A*rouse"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Aroused}; p. pr. & vb.
n. {Arousing}.] [Pref. a- + rouse.]
To excite to action from a state of rest; to stir, or put in
motion or exertion; to rouse; to excite; as, to arouse one
from sleep; to arouse the dormant faculties.
[1913 Webster]
Grasping his spear, forth issued to arouse
His brother, mighty sovereign on the host. --Cowper.
[1913 Webster]
No suspicion was aroused. --Merivale.
[1913 Webster]
>From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:
arouse
v 1: call forth (emotions, feelings, and responses); "arouse
pity"; "raise a smile"; "evoke sympathy" [syn: {elicit},
{enkindle}, {kindle}, {evoke}, {fire}, {raise}, {provoke}]
2: stop sleeping; "She woke up to the sound of the alarm clock"
[syn: {wake up}, {awake}, {awaken}, {wake}, {come alive},
{waken}] [ant: {fall asleep}]
3: evoke or call forth, with or as if by magic; "raise the
specter of unemployment"; "he conjured wild birds in the
air"; "stir a disturbance"; "call down the spirits from
the mountain" [syn: {raise}, {conjure}, {conjure up}, {invoke},
{evoke}, {stir}, {call down}, {bring up}, {put forward},
{call forth}]
4: cause to be alert and energetic; "Coffee and tea stimulate
me"; "This herbal infusion doesn't stimulate" [syn: {stimulate},
{brace}, {energize}, {energise}, {perk up}] [ant:
{de-energize},
{de-energize}, {sedate}]
5: cause to become awake or conscious; "He was roused by the
drunken men in the street"; "Please wake me at 6 AM."
[syn: {awaken}, {wake}, {waken}, {rouse}, {wake up}] [ant:
{cause to sleep}]
6: to begin moving, "As the thunder started the sleeping
children began to stir" [syn: {stir}]
7: stimulate sexually; "This movie usually arouses the male
audience" [syn: {sex}, {excite}, {turn on}, {wind up}]
>From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:
145 Moby Thesaurus words for "arouse":
aggravate, agitate, alarm, alert, anger, animate, annoy, awake,
awaken, bestir, blow the coals, blow up, bring forth, bring out,
bring to light, bristle, call forth, call out, call up, chafe,
challenge, cry havoc, cry wolf, deduce, derive, drag out,
draw forth, draw out, dynamize, educe, electrify, elicit, embitter,
encourage, energize, enkindle, enliven, enrage, evoke, exasperate,
excite, exhilarate, fan, fan the fire, fan the flame,
feed the fire, ferment, fire, flame, fly storm warnings, foment,
foster, frenzy, fret, frighten, galvanize, get from, get out of,
hearten, heat, heat up, huff, impassion, incense, incite, induce,
inflame, infuriate, instigate, invigorate, irritate, jazz up,
key up, kindle, knock up, lather up, light the fuse, light up,
liven, madden, miff, move, nettle, obtain, overexcite, peeve,
pep up, perk up, pique, procure, provoke, put up to, quicken,
raise, raise up, rally, rankle, revive, rile, roil, rouse, ruffle,
secure, set astir, set fire to, set on, set on fire, set up,
shake up, sic on, snap up, sound the alarm, sound the tocsin,
spark, startle, steam up, stimulate, stir, stir the blood,
stir the embers, stir the feelings, stir up, summon forth,
summon up, thrill, tickle, turn on, vex, vitalize, wake, wake up,
waken, wangle, wangle out of, warm, warm the blood, warn, whet,
whip up, winkle out, work into, work up, worm out, worm out of,
zip up
Hope this helps you to understand the continuing fluidity of our
language. It's like words such as ordinary or gay, their meanings have
changed over time.
Ann P.
Original message:
> interesting you bring up The Rise And Fall. . . I am reading it right
> now and just can't put it down. . . believe it or not I fall asleep
> every night while reading it and have about 300 pages to go. Fab book
> but. . . I have found at least one absolutely hilarious error. . . and
> I suspect it was introduced unwittingly by Shirer or by the
> "Late the same night the indefatigable Swede informed the British
> Foreign Office of his talk with Goering, and the next morning he was
> invited to confer again with Halifax. This time he persuaded the
> British Foreign Secretary to write a letter to Goering, whom he
> described as the one German who might prevent war. Couched in general
> terms, the letter was brief and noncommittal. It merely reiterated
> Britain's desire to reach a peaceful settlement and stressed the need
> "to have a few days" to achieve it.*
> Nevertheless it struck the fat Field Marshal as being of the "greatest
> importance." Dahlerus had delivered it to him that evening (August 26),
> as he was traveling in his special train to his Luftwaffe headquarters
> at Oranienburg outside Berlin. The train was stopped at the next
> station, an automobile was commandeered and the two men raced to the
> Chancellery, where they arrived at midnight. The Chancellery was dark.
> Hitler had gone to bed. But Goering insisted on arousing him."
> I can only summize the sudden 'porn' to be unintended, particularly
> considering the rabidly homophobic nature of the unlamented Nazi actors.
> G.
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
> "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> There's got to be some version of the super heavyweight class. For
> instance, what would you give whoever did Rise and Fall of the 3rd
Reich?
> <grin>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality
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>> I'm a bit torn here regarding this topic. Remembering the days when I
>> relied on RFB, The Library Of Congress, and my KRM model 400, I either
had
>> to deal with a lengthy wait for the book to possibly become available,
or
>> scan it with results that now wouldn't even be considered fair. Back
then
>> if I wanted to read the book desperately enough, I would put up with
the
>> rotten scan. At the time it was my opinion that a poor scan was better
in
>> most cases than no scan. My concern with axing fair scans across the
>> board is that we may miss the opportunity to come across an author,
>> subject, or unique book we may not have the chance to ever have
elsewhere.
>> I think Bookshare has moved in the right direction by hiding the poorer
>> quality scans from users by default, but still allowing those willing
to
>> take a chance on being disappointed to find the less than stellar
scans.
>> I hate to admit it, but I do usually avoid now-a-days, validating scans
>> that have been rated fair. If I do validate one, I will almost always
>> reject it if there are any missing pages. The other thing I won't do
with
>> a fair book is put too much time into cleaning it up, and I'll make
sure
>> it is still rated fair when I resubmit it, in the hope that when we go
>> back over the fair books in the collection, it will be replaced with a
>> better quality scan.
>> Regarding this topic however, I have a couple of suggestions that for
the
>> most part wouldn't be too hard to implement.
>> As many others have suggested, I would have the books scanned for
quality
>> on their submission, rather than relying on the opinion of the
individual
>> scanners to choose a quality rating.
>> I would develop a multi tiered credit rating for submissions, as
opposed
>> to a straight $2.50 across the board, and on a separate note, I'd also
>> base the amount of credit on the number of pages in the book. I don't
>> think someone who submits a 25 page book should get the same credit as
>> someone that does a 750 page book.
>> I also think that Bookshare should track some statistics on user
>> submissions, and after a user has reached a certain percentage of their
>> books being rated as fair, the system should refuse to accept any
further
>> fair scans from them. So in other words, if 75% of a user's scans are
>> rated fair, the system wouldn't allow any further fair submissions from
>> the user. This would of course rely on the earlier point of scanning
for
>> quality at the time of submission, and it would require that a minimum
>> number be submitted before it kicked in.
>> I think Bookshare should also track the number of times each book has
been
>> downloaded, and for popular books that are less than excellent, they
>> should be pushed onto the wish list for a BSO scan request.
>> Before anyone beats up on me with the staff time concern, the only time
>> involved would be in developing the plan, and than a short amount for
the
>> software engineers to do some coding to automate the whole process
>> involved. While the multi tiered credit could be confusing, I'm not
>> talking anything too involved. Maybe something like a base of $2.50 for
>> an excellent scan, $2.00 for a good scan, and $1.00 for a fair scan.
You
>> could than multiply the rate by a percentage for volume, something like
>> 1.0 for over 250 pages, .80 for 151 to 250, .70 for 101 to 150 etc. So
in
>> the cases above with a fair book, (yes I chose the easiest one to
figure)
>> the submitter would get $1.00, $.80, and $.70, respectively. Please
keep
>> in mind the above are just examples to show what I mean, and the staff
>> hopefully with some volunteer input would have to set a scale. As for
>> being confusing, the volunteer can still go to their profile page at
any
>> time to find out what the actual credit they've accumulated is.
>> Dave
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