Good points Jamie. A lot of textbook publishers claim that they have um accessible electronic formats of books for purchase. The chaviots are however that you must purchase the useless to you print edition, and mail in proof of said useless purchase, and then pray to the publisher Gods, beg for mercy, provide some kind of not so obvious proof that you are indeed not faking a disability, yep I take my dog everywhere with me and this harness is a fashion statement, and if perhaps the stars are aligned correctly, or you provided the appropriate sacrifices you might get some form of Cd with the book on it, but that doesn't mean it will be completely accessible. Smile. I gave up trying to get publishers to provide books in college, it was a lot less work and time and hastle, and frustration and anxiety if I just scanned the darn thing myself, the positive side, Bookshare gets the books. Before Chafee came into existence by the by was tacked onto a Omnibus spending bill, like the one moving through congress at the moment, even the Library of Congress had to beg permission from the all-mighty publisher Gods, to even adapt or modify a book, so the poor, disabled people could borrow them. Smile, so I say yeah for Bookshare. In an ideal world, it wouldn't matter if I was blind or not I would be able to access books as others do, but we haven't gotten to that ideal world and in the mean time Bookshare fills a wonderful gap and does it well. So live long Bookshare, and prosper, and the DOE should keep funding Bookshare, is a good grant program. Smile. Shelley L. Rhodes, VRT Guide dogs for the Blind Alumni Association www.guidedogs.com Reading a book is like rewriting it for yourself. You bring to a novel, anything you read, all your experience of the world. You bring your history and you read it in your own terms. -Angela Carter, novelist and journalist (1940-1992) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates, CPhT To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Something interesting I also don't think publishers lose money because y'all don't buy their books because you would not be buying their inaccessible books anyway. And many people DO buy books and scan them. But so many of you don't even have a way to scan the books so what on earth do publishers expect you to do? Magically gain eyesight? Magically find a way to hold books so you can read them? Magically heal dyslexia so you can read print easily? Obviously the Department of Education thinks Bookshare is a good thing or it would not have given Bookshare the grant it did and the law says Bookshare is legal for people who qualify. Maybe if publishers offered a digital copy to purchase that was accessible for people with print disabilities they would have more of a case but clearly they don't always do that. Saying they offer audio to purchase isn't a good argument either because some people are both deaf and blind and audio does them no good at all. Plus, I, as a sighted reader, spend almost nothing on books. At any given time I have a dozen books from my library and of the over 200 books I've read this year, I've purchased maybe 3 of them and only one of them brand new at full price. That's what libraries are for. Do publishers begrudge public libraries who purchase their books and then lend them out for free? -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: Matchless by Gregory Maguire Earn cash for answering trivia questions every 3 hours: http://instantcashsweepstakes.com/invitations/ref_link/49497 See everything I've read this year at: www.michrxtech.com/books.html