[bksvol-discuss] Re: Volunteer work stoppage???
- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:09:57 -0500
Hi Debbie,
BookShare staff are definitely aware of what some volunteers think. I
think volunteers need to remember thnat BookShare is limited in its staff
resources and that change is slow to come. I'm not saying though that
BookShare staff can't find the time to let us know what is happening in
their long and short term plans for the site.
I don't at this time plan to stop submitting books. My submission rate
will go down as the school year gets underway per usuall though. If issues
have not at least progressed when I begin to have more free time and
consider working on more books for BookShare, I might reconsider my
position.
I have maintained since joining that at this time the tool seems to do
more damage than anything. Anyone got stats on how often this topic comes
up?
So here is my calling to the BookShare staff: Let us know what's
happening at the offices at least if not more than once a month. We have not
seen a formal newsletter since last September. I'm guessing lots of folks
are on the newsletter list only and have wondered why they don't find out
about what's happening. If a new one goes out, you might even remind some
people about their original interest in the service.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings,
Jake
www.JBrownell.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Volunteer work stoppage???
> Hi, everybody,
>
> I think for starters, that each of us who is seriously concerned about the
> stripper (and judging from this list, I believe our numbers are
significant)
> should write individually to Gustavo, Janice Carter, Jim Fruchterman, and
> other members of the Bookshare staff. We should deluge them with mail on
> this topic and insist on an immediate, focused response. We should make
it
> absolutely clear that we want them to stop running the stripper at once.
>
> If this strategy doesn't get results, I think we will have to take
stronger
> steps, i.e., stop submitting and validating books until we are heard. I
> fear I sound like a rabble-rouser, but I just don't know what other
leverage
> we have. It is tragic that these books are being needlessly and
deliberately
> damaged. Because of the stripper, the Bookshare collection is far less
> valuable than it could be. Print page numbers are critically important to
> students, researchers, teachers and tutors, even parents helping their
kids
> with homework - it's impossible to list all the situations in which this
> information is necessary! And EVERYONE wants chapter headings! ...
Okay,
> I know I'm preaching to the choir. Who is ready and willing to mount a
> letter-writing campaign?
>
> Debbie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kaitlyn Hill" <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:01 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Volunteer work stoppage???
>
>
> > Debbie
> >
> > I am fairly new but we are a percentage of the users here on the system
> and
> > if this is for us it would seem they would listen. But then again...
> > I know in K1000 you can turn off the headers when reading and play a
sound
> > when turning pages. This is the mode I use most of the time when
reading.
> >
> > Shall we form the UBSV? United BookShare volunteers, LOL :)
> >
> > Kaitlyn
> > Level III Practitioner
> > Reconnective healing and the Reconnection
> > Level 1 Reiki healing
> > Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Life is an inside job and light and love is everything:)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Kent
> Stein
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:11 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: stripper and colatteral damage
> >
> >
> >
> > Hear, hear! I agree 200%!
> >
> > We have been telling the Bookshare staff about our concerns, politely
but
> > firmly, literally for years. Despite all the talk, nothing has changed.
> I
> > am beginning to think we need to take stronger action. We ARE
volunteers.
> > We do not have to contribute the thousands of hours we put into this
> > program. And Bookshare cannot survive without us. Do we need to say we
> > will have to stop scanning and validating until we know that someone out
> > there is really listening to us, and taking action? It should not have
to
> > come down to threats and strikes, but many of us are at our wit's end.
> What
> > is it going to take to turn off the stripper and stop mangling the books
> we
> > work so hard to make available?
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rui" <goldwave@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:16 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] stripper and colatteral damage
> >
> >
> > > Good Afternoon:
> > >
> > > At the bookshare users meeting at NFB, I made it very clear to Jim
(like
> > he didn't know already) the issues with the stripper and why i think it
> > should be removed.
> > >
> > > The whole concept of the stripper bothers me, not just the fact it
does
> > more than it's supposed too.
> > >
> > > Its very reason for being agrivates me.
> > > Regular print books have headers, some have footers, that is part of a
> > print book.
> > > If we want digital copies of print books then, take the good with the
> bad.
> > > Do not sanitize the book to make it more access technology friendly.
> The
> > very fact that is accessible already does that.
> > > If i don't want to read the headers, i can strip them out myself or
use
> my
> > own automated tool to do so.
> > > However, If by chance I do want them there, I simply do not get that
> > option with Bookshare!!!
> > >
> > > Words do not do justice to how much this issue ticks me off.
> > >
> > > Bottomline, this process does not serve the community that it was
> designed
> > to assist.
> > > -- Rui
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: 2005/07/21 Thu AM 11:00:39 EDT
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: stripper
> > > >
> > > > Pam
> > > >
> > > > agreed! It's inconsistent and unpredictable. And the problems
> relative
> > > > to it have been discussed repeatedly.
> > > > The Powers-that-be are all too aware of the damage the stripper has
> > caused
> > > > but seem to have shoved it on the back burner probably due to more
> > > > pressing issues to deal with.
> > > > It is a shame that it cannot be dealt with; but Marissa, prior to
her
> > > > leaving, pretty much outlined where it stands.
> > > > So I wouldn't expect much change regarding the stripper as any
change
> > > > would require some sort of policy change plus programmer action.
> > > > Conceptually, the stripper makes sense; practically, it has been a
> > dismal
> > > > failure breading as much (or perhaps even more) than it has
repaired.
> > > > It's not our decision as we are volunteers, not decision-makers.
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