[bksvol-discuss] Re: What braces look like in print (was Re: Re: Proofing: Is this correct?)
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:17:57 -0800
chuckle--not to Regina's note--sympathy for the headache--but to Judy's
wonderful description of brackets and how the parentheses got that way;
An added irrelevant comment because I never know when to stop; ( braces
are also, in England, I think, suspenders (of course many of you may be too
young to know what suspendrs are (or were) here in the u.S.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Regina Alvarado
<reggie.alvarado@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Thanks Judy. I found my brackets which was the symbol Madeleine wants
> me to use for [blank page]. Thanks for your wonderful description of these
> symbols in print.****
>
> Reggie****
>
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> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Judy s.
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 9:07 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] What braces look like in print (was Re: Re:
> Proofing: Is this correct?)
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> Hi Reggie,
>
>
> Sorry to hear about the headache--thank goodness it's better.
>
> In appearance, brackets are parenthesis that went to a military academy to
> make them straight and precise with right angles instead of gentle curves.
> grin. Parentheses are curved, as if you took and erased the top and bottom
> of a circle, leaving the left and right side of a circle. Brackets are
> made from a square, as if you took and erased the middle out of the top and
> bottom of a square box, leaving the left and right hand sides and a bit of
> the top and the bottom of the box on each side.
>
> One way to feel the shapes might be as follows. To feel the shape of a
> left brace, hold a rectangular cereal box in front of you in your right
> hand, with the broadest side of the box facing you, and the top of the box
> facing the ceiling. Put your index finger of your left hand in the middle
> of the top of the box. Run your finger across the top of the box towards
> your left, then run your finger down the left side of the box, then go to
> the right and run your finger across the bottom of the box. That's the
> shape that a left hand brace takes, the brace that corresponds to a left
> parenthesis. Now, hold the cereal box in front of you in your left hand,
> again with the broadest side of the box facing you. Put your index finger
> of your right hand in the middle of the top of the box. Run your finger
> across the top of the box towards your right, then run your finger down the
> right side of the box, then go to the left and run your finger across the
> bottom of the box. That's the shape that a right hand brace takes, the
> brace that corresponds to a right parenthesis. ****
>
>
> Judy s.
> On 11/30/2012 6:40 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:****
>
> Thanks all. I had a major headache which Tylenol has now dwindled to
> slight. I knew what I was putting down but probably wrote the wrong word
> for it. When I got responses to both what I did and to my word, I kind of
> flipped out. Sorry. I am really working on doing it correctly. ********
>
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> Madeleine asked me to put Blank Page in brackets instead of parenthesis.
> Well, I have never had to put in the designation before but had seen it
> written by others. I actually had to play a little with my keyboard to see
> where the brackets were. I never have used them before myself in writing,
> and I never had occasion to use them at work. What do they look like in
> print compared to the parenthesis? Now I am curious. After searching
> though, I sure won’t forget where they are on the keyboard. Now I will
> never get another book that I need to put [Blank Page] in.********
>
> Reggie********
>
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> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Lori Castner
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 5:07 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?****
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> Reggie,********
>
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> The asterisks or stars are the correct symbol. I do not know where the
> discussion of ellipses came from. Some books may use them to indicate
> change of scene, but this list has always used asterisks.********
>
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>
> This list should be helpful not confusing. The amount of confusion that
> seems to have erupted recently concerns me.********
>
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> Lori C.********
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> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Regina Alvarado
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 1:29 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?********
>
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> Ug! Confused once again! Maybe this just getting to be too much for me? I
> just uploaded having put * * * between change of scenery lines. Probably
> will get it back! Ug. Someday maybe I will understand, but have a headache
> right now so will not worry about this book until it comes back! Is it
> supposed to be like this?********
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> Line of text********
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> . . .********
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> Line of text********
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> The utterly confused, hurting and tired one********
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> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Roger Loran Bailey
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 1:11 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?****
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> Except for one thing. The ellipsis is to be treated as a word. If it is at
> the end of a sentence it consists of the three dots and then an additional
> period for a total of four dots. If it indicates a change of scenery or
> scene it is still treated that way and with no asterisks. A change of scene
> may be indicated with an ellipsis or it may be indicated with a blank line
> or it may be indicated with both. The three asterisks are to be used when
> there is a blank line that we want to retain though. Most often that is an
> indication of a passage of time or an indication of scene, but it does not
> necessarily have to be. Whatever it indicates it is replaced with three
> asterisks. It has nothing to do with the ellipsis. ********
>
> On 11/29/2012 11:41 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:********
>
> Hi Reggie,********
>
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>
> This looks correct to me for a book where the page numbers are at the
> bottom. ********
>
> ********
>
> Sandi********
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> ----- Original Message ----- ********
>
> *From:* Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvarado@xxxxxxxxx> ********
>
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ********
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:43 PM********
>
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Proofing: Is this correct?********
>
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> Received a book back for more editing. Before I send back, I am trying to
> proof the new way. Want to know if this is correct. I understand about
> the font and points. However, have a few other questions:********
>
> ********
>
> 1. When putting an ellipsis to denote change of scenery it is done
> like this? ********
>
> ********
>
> Line of text********
>
> * * *********
>
> Line of text********
>
> ********
>
> 1. If the number is at the bottom of the page it is done like this? ***
> *****
>
> ********
>
> Last Line of text on a page********
>
> ********
>
> page number********
>
> Page break********
>
> ********
>
> 1. When there is a chapter name (understanding bolding and points and
> fon) it is set up like this? ********
>
> ********
>
> First line below page break********
>
> ********
>
> Chapter number and title********
>
> First line of text********
>
> ********
>
> 1. When there is the start of a new page it is done like this. ********
>
> ********
>
> Line at top of page********
>
> ********
>
> First line of text********
>
> ********
>
> I will say thanks to anyone who helps. Want to get this book up and not
> have it come back for even more editing.********
>
> Reggie********
>
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