[bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?

  • From: Tim Syfert <goodproofing2010@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 07:51:52 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Roger,

Maybe the term should be changed to fanatical perfectionist. Fanatical means: 
unreasonably enthusiastic; overly zealous.

What say group?

Tim



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From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:33 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?

Actually, I kind of dislike the term deranged perfectionist. It seems to me to 
be a contradiction in terms. Putting that aside, though, I do wonder about the 
justification for the policy that people who are under contract with Bookshare 
can proofread their own submissions. I don't know anything about how one gets 
such a contract, but I would suppose that they must show some kind of evidence 
that they are good at what they are doing. However, it seems to me that the 
same arguments would apply to them that apply to volunteers. Just because one 
has signed a contract does not mean that they have reached a state of 
perfection. Even the best proofreader can still miss something that someone 
else might catch. Even the best submitter has a vested interest in their own 
work.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Syfert" <goodproofing2010@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:48 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?


Deranged perfectionist? Who's deranged? You better believe it!! (evil smile).




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From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?


Message
Hi,
Jamie's right. I remember proofreading a book and running it through the
spell-checker before sending it up for approval and was startled to find that I
needed to add some spaces to the book or something like that. Due to the Braille
display not being recognized, I hadn't been aware of how the line looked based
on what I heard. I can see why Bookshare insists on two people overseeing the
processing of the file, one to submit and one to proofread. And if you have two
deranged perfectionists on a given project, submitter and proofreader, then that
book will be as near perfect as we can make it, barring stupid things like
typographical errors or missing words left out by the publisher. Regards, Kim
Friedman.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Yates, CPhT
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011
10:08 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?

It's true that if you scan the
book you have the book to proofread with, but I think, in the beginning, there
were very few sighted volunteers for Bookshare. So a person without sight
couldn't really compare it with the print book, right?

And then, too,
it's always good to have a second pair of eyes (um, or fingers or ears, sorry!)
to look something over. I am in general a pretty careful scanner but I have
several times submitted a book that was missing pages and it's my custom to page
down through the file counting page numbers to make sure they are all there. I
even once submitted a book that had a chunk of pages twice.

It's like
when you read a book that has errors in the print--your eyes see what they want
to see and not what is really there. So sometimes you don't even see the
mistakes.

And of course there are scanners (like me) who don't read every
word of what they scan, and there are proofreaders who don't read every word of
what they proof. So two sets of eyes on the job are better than
one.


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