[bksvol-discuss] Re: let's decide on the fate of this poor book

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:25:52 -0600

I think this book's history confirms a complaint of mine concerning the book process. That complaint is that we cannot cooperate on a book. Each time the book when back to step 1 the next person had to start fresh without the benefit of the previous validator's work or experience with the book.


If we could share books how much easier the experience could be, and how much shorter the list of books on step 1 needing to be validated would also be.

I've been told (warned, should I say) that this is a breach of my bookshare agreement. I contend that that isn't true. As I remember it, I agreed not to exchange books in the collection with other users. Books in step 1 are not on the collection yet, and to exchange books with another volunteer isn't like giving a book to another person to read. Any volunteer who wants to read a book on step 1 before it gets into the collection can do so, no matter how many other people have checked it out before. All they have to do is wait for the book to become available.

I have certain tools on my computer, tools like Kurzweil and ms word. Someone who has openbook may wish to work on a book currently in .kes format. How much better it would be if I could get the book, convert it to .rtf format, perhaps make all image breaks page breaks with word, and pass the book on to the person with open book to work with. They call that collaboration.

This list consists of many people willing and anxious to work on books. But we are restricted in the help we can give because of something that I, at least, consider a misreading of the bookshare agreement.

If you think my reading of the situation is wrong then let me know, and I'll shut up about it. I'm really not trying to make waves; I just want to address a situation that I think might help. I just hate to see us beating our brains out to solve problems that could be much more easily solved by the application of a little common sense.

Thanks.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:21 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] let's decide on the fate of this poor book


I am doing my part to shepherd less than excellent books off of step 1. My queue is full for now.

I came across the following book. It has a long history. Perhaps somebody can decide if it needs re-scanning or can be fixed up.

The biology of violence: how understanding the brain, behavior, and environment can
break the vicious circle of aggression (hold for Sarah(
Author:
Debra Niehoff
Language:
English
Format:
RTF (Rich Text Format)
Brief Synopsis:
none
Version Comment:
Good, some errors.
Long Synopsis:
Categories:
Health, Mind and Body
Nonfiction
Science
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Leave for Sarah.

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