[bksvol-discuss] Re: opening a can of worms I expect
- From: Candice Attrill <candicat87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:29:32 -0400
I understand what you mean, but i think it would become confusing to
say what's in kids is in kids and if it isn't classified that way it's
not. I'd find nothing wrong with a teenager for example though reading
shakespear or Nicolase Sparks, but might take issue with a young (12
13)year old reading an Updike book. I found one at 13, and still hide
from them, but I know that's a personal thing and not bookshare's
doing My point with that is by your first email saying not to mark
anything adult because none of the above authors would be listed under
kids it doesn't mean that the material is just as abrasive for each
author.
On 6/28/10, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, it is not censorship to say that a book has certain content. As I have
> said before, if it was only a matter of providing information I would have
> no problem with marking books as adult myself. I think it would be overkill
> because there is already a children's category and, even though some books
> might be miscategorized, it is generally the case that books in the
> children's category are for children and books that are not in the
> children's category are for adults, but at least redundant information is
> harmless. The problem is that when a book is marked as adult on Bookshare a
> large number of people are prohibited from accessing it on the sole basis of
> their status. That is censorship. Okay, parents can go through some process
> that is not entirely clear to permit their offspring to access these books.
> The parents, however, are not the ones reading the books. That is censorship
> too. When I was in the position of playing a parentlike role for a certain
> child I did encourage her to read and I never shied away from making
> recommendations, but I most certainly never either prohibited her from
> reading anything she wanted to read nor insisted that she read anything that
> I chose and that she was uninterested in.
>
>
> _ _ _
>
> "Socialism is an attack on poverty." - W. E. B. Du Bois
>
>
> The Militant:
> http://www.themilitant.com
> Pathfinder Press:
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
> Granma International:
> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice A" <candicat87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:04 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: opening a can of worms I expect
>
>
>> Is it ubserd to mark it that when at times adults who are offended by such
>>
>> material can filter it out of their search result and parents can sign a
>> waver saying their child can read it? I don't think it's sensor ship just
>> to say that it has cirtain types of content. No different than movies
>> saying violence and nudity etc. It's letting you know it is there. In
>> general the person, or the kid's parrents can make the choice on whether
>> or not the person reads it. I just don't want to miss mark something which
>>
>> is why I asked here.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:06 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: opening a can of worms I expect
>>
>>
>>> Amazon doesn't ask you how old you are before they sell you a book. That
>>> is just another example of why this whole adult designation business is
>>> so absurd.
>>>
>>>
>>> _ _ _
>>>
>>> "Socialism is an attack on poverty." - W. E. B. Du Bois
>>>
>>>
>>> The Militant:
>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>>> Pathfinder Press:
>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>> Granma International:
>>> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Candice A" <candicat87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:50 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: opening a can of worms I expect
>>>
>>>
>>> I buy all of my books from amazon.com does it mark books restricted? i
>>> haven't really bought anything really steemy there. book wise.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Shelley L. Rhodes
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:19 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: opening a can of worms I expect
>>>
>>>
>>> You have definitely opened a can of worms, smile.
>>>
>>> My theory is if I bought it in a restricted section of a library or
>>> bookstore then I am going to mark it adult. If I didn't then it is not
>>> marked adult.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shelley L. Rhodes, VRT
>>> and Ludden Black Labrador Guide Dog
>>>
>>>
>>> The ultimate sense of security will be when we come to recognize that we
>>>
>>> are all part of one human race. Our primary allegiance is to the human
>>> race and not to one particular color or border. -Mohamed ElBaradei,
>>> Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (b. 1942)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Candice A
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:01 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] opening a can of worms I expect
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> There has been a discussion on mine and a few other's twitters that
>>> got me wanting a bit more clarification on this.
>>>
>>> In the manual it states that adult content is anything sexually
>>> explissit or that insites hate. Now the sexually explissit part is quite
>>>
>>> easy to understand, but the second part seems much less clear. It says if
>>>
>>> we're not sure to just leave it marked as adult, but I've been told so
>>> many different things over the years it's hard to really tell anymore. I
>>> know this is comparing 2 vastly different programs, but I'll give you the
>>>
>>> example that when I was fifteen my parents thought I was reading racey
>>> material so put an adult blocker on my account with nls.
>>> A year later I called them requesting the bible, but because the bible
>>>
>>> had violence and strong language I was not allowed to take it out on lone
>>>
>>> until I was eighteen. I also worked at a library where they always would
>>> do a check on a book for anyone under eighteen before letting them take
>>> the book out including myself and I don't know what guidelines they used.
>>>
>>> So as for the hate thing does it become if there are race riotts in
>>> the book? Is it if there is one religion that hates another? Are all
>>> books with nazis out? I mean I know this can't be the case for
>>> educational purposes, but is the line drawn at talking about what hate
>>> speech and activities are or if they happen in the content of the book?
>>>
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