[bksvol-discuss] Re: page number locations.
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks, Roger and Sandi. It certainly makes my proofing job esier and I'm less
likeley to mistakenly delete a page number or first line of ttext.
Cindy
Join us in celebrating our 10th Anniversary!
TinyURL.com/752cyrs
>________________________________
> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:28 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page number locations.
>
>As a matter of fact, I was only pointing it out, that it was not actually
>necessary. Here is a little secret. When I am scanning a book I move the page
>numbers to the top myself. The reason I do it is because I ordinarily scan two
>pages at a time and preproof each two pages before moving on to the next two
>pages, so it is not a lot of trouble to move those page numbers and it gives
>me a feeling of rightness. Besides, I learned a long time ago on this list
>that the correct format for submitted pages was to have a page break followed
>by a blank line followed by a page number followed by a blank line followed by
>the text of the page followed by a blank line and then another page break.
>That order of things just cannot be followed if the page number is at the
>bottom of the page.
>
>On 4/22/2012 12:58 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:
>> Actually, in checking the book for proofing, I find it easier to have the
>> numbers consistently at the top left of the page. One of my proofreaders
>> asked that I add this to my work on each book I do with her--and I've got it
>> down to not much time, so I do it for everyone, including me.
>>
>> I do understand it's not part of the scanner's duties and the software is
>> supposed to take care of it. I should have specified that's something I
>> do--not all scanners are required to do it.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing that out, Roger.
>>
>> Sandi
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:03 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] page number locations.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When proofing I sometimes move page numbers that are at the bottom to the
>>> top left because I find it easier to check the pagination that way.
>>> Besides, I get confused about leaving a line space between the page number
>>> at the bottom of the page and the page break and putting a line space
>>> between the page break and the first line of text on the next page. I did
>>> try keeping the page number on the bottom of the page in my last proofing
>>> job and I think I did it o.k. (of course if it turns out either the page
>>> number or the first line of the next page are missing, you'll know I didn't
>>> do it correctly. smile;It's easier for me as proofer if the page numbers
>>> are at the upper left
>>> or right, but if they don't scan that way and it's too time-cconsuming for
>>> the scanner to move them, that's o.k. I can deal. smile
>>> Cindy
>>> Join us in celebrating our 10th Anniversary!
>>>
>>> TinyURL.com/752cyrs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The job of a proofreader is...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While that is true, Roger, many of us still do it to make it easier to
>>>> check when proofreading book in hand. Also, it is my experience you are
>>>> less likely to miss a page being numbered, and more likely to number
>>>> pre-matter so that the numbers don't get re-numbered and no longer match
>>>> table of contents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, you are right; it is not required, just sometimes can make the
>>>> proofreader's job easier. As I work with Sandi a lot, I am very grateful
>>>> for that helpful touch.
>>>> Valerie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Join us in celebrating our 10th Anniversary!
>>>> Bookshare: Bringing Reading to Life for 10 Years
>>>> http://www.bookshare.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Fri, April 20, 2012 10:54:13 AM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The job of a proofreader is...
>>>>
>>>> Let me point out that one of your tasks need not be done. You need not
>>>> move the page numbers to the top. Just be sure to leave a blank line at
>>>> the top of the page. The Bookshare automatic tools will take care of
>>>> moving the page numbers to the top when the proofread book is submitted.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/20/2012 10:46 AM, Sandi Ryan wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ann and All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you about the duties of a proofreader but, as a scanner, I'd
>>>>> like to add my two cents about scanner duties, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're scanning a book, you are the person who first offers the book
>>>>> to the collection. Someone, with or without a copy of the book you
>>>>> submit, will have to read through it and decide whether you've done a
>>>>> good job.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I scan, I scan the book as quickly as possible, making sure every
>>>>> few pages that everything is going well. Then I sit down with the book,
>>>>> move page numbers to the top, strip the headers, put title,
>>> chapters, etc. in appropriate fonts, make sure ellipses and dashes conform
>>> to Bookshare format, and read the book to find and correct scannos. Even if
>>> I am holding the book for a proofreader I know is meticulous I do these
>>> things. There is still plenty for them to do, but I try to let them
>>> proofread for pleasure more than to find my pesky errors. Many errors can
>>> be found and corrected quickly throughout a book. Those that can't I find
>>> by reading every word in the book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I love every book I read? No, but I've found a lot of books I really
>>>>> like that I wouldn't have picked up except to put them in the Bookshare
>>>>> collection. I've learned about lots of things, and I truly love the work
>>>>> I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scanning each book takes me two days to two weeks, depending on the
>>>>> length and the pleasure factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully, when a proofreader gets one of my books, he or she can do a
>>>>> quick
>>> read-through and feel comfortable that the book is ready. But I count on
>>> the proofreader to make sure I haven't missed errors. The purpose of two
>>> people touching the book is making it as near perfect as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I'm out of the closet!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] The job of a proofreader is...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm writing because I just sent off a quality report about a book I'm
>>>>>> reading. Oh, I'm going to finish the book, it's part of a series I'm
>>>>>> reading, but I have a really hard and knotty
>>> question to ask volunteers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is, folks. Is it the job of a proofer to actually *read* a book,
>>>>>> or can a proofer get away with checking title and so on, and then just
>>>>>> pushing the book through?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you answered that you thought you could get away with just checking
>>>>>> metadata, you'd be wrong, wrong three times over. This book I'm reading,
>>>>>> Divided Allegiance by Elizabeth Moon, has a wonderful title page and
>>>>>> front piece. Then, I started actually *reading* the blessed thing. Well,
>>>>>> I wasn't reading it, my DTBM was. Anyway, this book's quality was only
>>>>>> good. There were a million scanos including the mangling of the main
>>>>>> character's name. Do you know how aggravating it can be when your main
>>>>>> character, mentioned about ten times per page has her name mangled five
>>>>>> out of those ten times? Scannos like 'ff' for 'if' and garbage chars at
>>>>>> the end of pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <frowning darkly> There is no excuse for this kind of sloppiness. Why do
>>>>>> you think it takes me weeks to proof a book? It's because I actually
>>>>>> read every, single, word in the whole blessed book! I have allowed a
>>>>>> book to be sent up after reading half or so of it, but only once. That
>>>>>> was because the scanner was known to me, the book I had read so far had
>>>>>> been aeror free, and I knew that the quality would be the same
>>>>>> throughout! If I proof, I read. All this stuff could have been easily
>>>>>> fixed! <grrrrr> Sorry for ranting guys, but I devoutly hope that my rant
>>>>>> has stopped any lazy proofers in their tracks and caused them to
>>>>>> reexamine their work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Ann K. Parsons
>>>>>> Portal Tutoring
>>>>>> EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
>>>>>> Skype: Putertutor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "All that is gold does not glitter,
>>>>>> Not all those who wander are lost."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>>>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
>>>>>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>>> list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
>>> line.
>>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>>>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>
>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>
>
>
>
Other related posts:
