[bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph marks in some scans was Beginning Volunteer Ideas
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:59:15 -0700
Hi Lori,
I've seen exactly what you have seen, paragraph marks that are followed by a
space and then a lower case letter. I don't know if any other software
creates this, but I do know that Kurzweil 1000 versions 10 and below, and
maybe later versions, but I don't know about them for sure, when not set to
ignore the line endings representing the margins of the printed on paper
page, will create this problem. In this instance, one can use the 27-step
process, but when searching for a paragraph mark followed by a lower case
letter, one simply searches for a paragraph mark followed by a space and
then each lower case letter. I've solved the problem that way when
necessary.
Just in case anyone encounters this, I thought I'd chime in and share my
solution.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:42 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraph marks in some scans was Beginning
Volunteer Ideas
Debby, That's interesting. I proofread To Speak the Truth, and the
twenty-seven step method removed a number of paragraph marks. I had to
remove many manually because they occurred in mid-sentence before
capitalized words like Cuba, Castro, United States, etc. For some reason,
the method Denise mentioned did not work on that particular book.
I foun the speeches quite interesting.
Just a word of advice, you might turn on "show all" and check some of the
line endings just to double check because I have seen some scanned books
that have a paragraph mark, a space and then a lower case letter, why I
don't know.
.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Beginning Volunteer Ideas
> Thank you. If the Malcolm X book does not have the line break problem I do
> not understand why. I scanned it with the same settings I used for the
> other unacceptable books. As for the others, the last time I checked, last
> night, no one had taken them yet.
>
>
> _ _ _
>
> "No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always
> convinced that it says what he means." - George Bernard Shaw
>
>
> The Militant:
> http://www.themilitant.com
> Pathfinder Press:
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
> Granma International:
> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:44 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Beginning Volunteer Ideas
>
>
>> Hi Roger and everyone!
>>
>> Has someone taken care of your books, Roger? I just checked out the one
>> of the speeches of Malcolm X and went through the procedure to delete
>> extra paragraph marks and Word made 0 replacements through the whole
>> alphabet, so it looks like the problem has been solved for this book.
>>
>> Since I have it, I think I might as well go on and proofread it so every
>> word is read so poor old Mr. X can stop languishing on the checkout list,
>> (smile).
>>
>> Debby
>>
>> At 12:33 PM 5/8/2010, Roger Loran Bailey wrote
>>>Speaking of new volunteers not quite knowing what they don't know, that
>>>was the problem that my scans with line breaks that turned each line into
>>>a paragraph was causing. A new volunteer would get hold of one of my
>>>submissions and think they were doing a fine job and upload it and it
>>>would get bounced back because of the line breaks. Not only did the new
>>>volunteer not know that the problem existed, but they would not quite
>>>know what to do with it when it was bounced back. That means that I think
>>>it is time to remind those of you who have the equipment and expertise to
>>>take care of those line breaks that I still have three submissions on the
>>>checkout list that need to be taken care of before a new volunteer gets
>>>them. Right now I am working on W. E. B. du Bois Speaks and that is the
>>>first one since I finally figured out how to stop those line breaks. It
>>>is also the one that I got halfway through when my OCR zapped it and I
>>>had to start over. So it has taken me quite a bit of time. The three
>>>still on the checkout list that need the line breaks removed are 1.
>>>February 1965: The Final Speeches by Malcolm X, 2. E Pluribus Unicorn by
>>>Theodore Sturgeon, and 3. U.S. Hands Off the Mideast by Fidel Castro.
>>>These were all scanned two pages at a time and I preproofed each two
>>>pages before going on to the next two, so, except for the line breaks
>>>they should be pretty easy proofs. There is another one, Lost Traveler,
>>>that was the cause of the phone calls from Bookshare that prompted my
>>>latest efforts to solve the line break problem. It has been checked out
>>>by the Bookshare employee who called me and it has been held for quite
>>>some time now and I don't know what is happening with it, but if one of
>>>you with the expertise would like to do it, it has been not only scanned
>>>two pages at a time and preproofed while that was being done, but it has
>>>also been proofed by a new volunteer who was unable to handle the line
>>>breaks. If one of you will take it I suppose I could email that Bookshare
>>>employee and ask that it be released with a hold for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>_ _ _
>>>
>>>"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always
>>>convinced that it says what he means." - George Bernard Shaw
>>>
>>>
>>>The Militant:
>>>http://www.themilitant.com
>>>Pathfinder Press:
>>>http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>>Granma International:
>>> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:01 AM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Beginning Volunteer Ideas
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jamie's comment about volunteers not knowing what they don't know and
>>>>possibly having test proofs, sparked some ideas. I think new volunteers
>>>>should tell Bookshare what software they are using to scan or proof, and
>>>>be matched with experienced volunteers, using similar software, who have
>>>>agreed to be mentors. The new volunteer should be sent files pertaining
>>>>to their specific software, and do test runs before actually beginning
>>>>to scan or proof materials. They can contact their mentor at any time if
>>>>they run into issues. These are just my ideas, and my desire is to get
>>>>the highest quality books into the collection.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Melissa Smith
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