Gary That's the practical approach. It really makes little sense worrying about what you can't control. And you can control the validation, if it sits around too long, by self-validating. I think that the greatest curse facing any volunteer is allowing their egos to control. That comes from the school of hard knocks having lived 50_+ years; when I was young, of course, ego played a far greater role to my own detriment of course in most instances. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.