It is the first time for me, but using IE 6 and Jaws 5.0 smile, didn't know there were updates, should um, update that. And XP home. But usually the site is pretty cooperative with me, and was earlier in the evening. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com Never let mistakes or wrong directions, of which every man falls into many, discourage you. There is precious instruction to be got by finding where we were wrong. -- Thomas Carlyle