Hi, Robin;
Thanks. I appreciate you or anyone on this list helping me understand gadgets
unfamiliar to me. Yes, I used to own a Braille and Speak. It died a long time
ago. It was portable in that it could be carried in a normal sized back pack.
My I-phone instructor bought a folding keyboard from Amazon a few months ago.
He doesn't recall its name, so I can't purchase one like it. It's not Braille.
It shouldn't be too hard to use once I learn what keys it has. Thanks for
explaining how Braille keyboards function. Take care.
Lillian
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Hi,
I'm not David but thought I'd jump in and help. No in theory you don't lose any
lines of text because they reside in the code of your file whether it's on the
braille display or they reside on your pc or smart phone so just like you can
move up and down between lines on your pc with arrow keys so too you can with
these devices so if you wanted to review the line above you'd just press one of
the corresponding buttons to move the device's focus back to that line and the
refreshable dots would refresh themselves to display that content again. I
don't know if you ever held a braille n' speak in your hands but some units can
be similar in size to it having similar keys in a brailler key configuration
for your data entry and or control of the unit via cord commands. These
displays can come with as few as 12 cells for on the go use to 14, 18, 20, 32,
40 and even desktop models that sport a whopping 80. There have been rumblings
about a multi-line display forth coming that I believe only allows for reading
documents not necessarily editing but not sure it's made it to market yet.
I hope that helps.
Robin
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Hi, David;
Thanks. I have a clearer understanding of how those devices work now. When you
move to the next line of Braille, you don't lose the line above you already
read, in case there's something you want to double check for better
clarification. Have I got that right? Also, is this Orbit portable, compared to
the standard size of a regular keyboard that may contain Braille markings or
symbols relating to what those keys do? Thanks again in advance of your
response. Take care.
Lillian
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Hi, Lillian.
Normally, when you read Braille it consists of several separate lines on a page
and you move your fingers from one line to the next in order to read the
contents of the page.
However, there are devices which can present Braille dots electronically, as
opposed to dots on a page. This is done by tiny little pegs or pins which can
pop up on an otherwise flat panel which simulates the tactile feel of Braille.
As an example, if you had the letter L, which consists of dots 1, 2 and 3 the
pins would pop up through this panel to resemble those dots. These pins aren't
sharp to the touch but feel exactly like, or at least similar to how dots would
feel on a piece of Braille paper.
Unlike a piece of paper which might be able to hold 24 lines of Braille a
Braille display is much smaller and only holds one line of Braille. This then
begs the question of how can we have more than one line of Braille on a device
which only allows for one line of Braille at a time. With these devices, after
you have finished reading a line of Braille you push a button and the pins
electronically refresh, meaning that they reconfigure themselves to show you
the next line of Braille, which you would then feel from left to right. This
may sound like it would be an awkward way to read but the buttons to go back
and forth to the next or previous line are located in very convenient and
strategically positioned places, making it easy to advance the display to the
next line as you're finishing the line you're currently reading.
Some electronic Braille devices or Braille displays have a built-in keyboard,
allowing you to type into the device to store your own notes or other writings
so you can read them in Braille, either as you're writing or when reading or
reviewing what you've written. Many of these devices allow you to transfer
documents from your computer to the device so you can read and edit them on the
Braille device. As John has already stated many of them can allow you to use a
screen reader, such as JAWS, to read what's on your computer screen in Braille,
along with or instead of listening to them.
I hope this explanation helps.
On 4/4/2019 9:38 PM, Lillian Way wrote:
Hi, David;
I have a question. What is "refreshable Braille?" Thanks in advance for your
answer. Take care.
Lillian
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Latest Buzz - Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 8:52 PM
The Orbit Reader is Still Available, if You are Willing to Pay a Bit More
Despite a slightly higher cost and new way to obtain it, the Orbit Reader is
still available for purchase, according to the company.
Recent events have caused the American Printing House, a primary distributor
for the display, to cease carrying the unit.
According to a message posted on behalf of the APH Executive Leadership team to
the OR20 mailing list, "Negotiations between Orbit Research and the
Transforming Braille Group are still underway and there is no resolution in
sight." This was part of a message posted on the Orbit 20 mailing list, which
is also being discontinued.
Orbit Research responded on the @OrbitResearch1
<http://www.twitter.com/OrbitResearch1>
<http://www.twitter.com/OrbitResearch1> Twitter account:
The Orbit Reader 20 is in active production and we continue to develop and
support it with firmware updates, warranty service and repairs. It is available
through our website: orbitresearch.com/product/tactil
<http://orbitresearch.com/product/tactil>
<http://orbitresearch.com/product/tactil> and via phone: 888-606-7248
The price has been raised slightly to $599 for all orders from Orbit Research.
In a podcast recorded at CSUN, <https://www.blindbargains.com/b/20022>
<https://www.blindbargains.com/b/20022> APH Director of Sales Dave
Wilkinson reaffirmed the company's commitment to braille.
We are committed to low-cost Braille, but at the same time, we are also
committed to providing refreshable Braille to our customers and our students
and folks who expect that from us, and we will do anything we have to to make
sure that we can provide refreshable Braille for our clients.
User Buddy Brannan has set up a new mailing list to discuss Orbit Research
products.](https://groups.io/g/orbit-reader) It is not endorsed by the company,
though staff will monitor the list, according to its description.
We will post more updates if they become available.
Here's the original post from the Orbit Reader mailing list:
[Or20] Orbit Reader Mailing List Update
Michael McDonald mmcdonald at aph.org <http://aph.org> <http://aph.org> Tue Apr
2 18:57:28 UTC 2019
I have been asked to post this message on behalf of the APH Executive
Leadership team:
Effective April 2, APH is discontinuing the Orbit Reader 20 listserv. We are
taking this step as we remove the Orbit Reader 20 from our shopping site.
Negotiations between Orbit Research and the Transforming Braille Group are
still underway and there is no resolution in sight. Supporting documentation,
like the Orbit User Guide and user videos, will remain available to customers
who have purchased an Orbit Reader from APH. Orbit Research is expected to
honor the warranty and continue repairs for already purchased Orbit Readers.
Any requests for repairs should continue to come through APH. APH is committed
to providing students and customers with reliable, refreshable braille devices,
and we will be providing an array of options while this situation is resolved.
Please visit our shopping site and our social media pages to learn more.
Update:
APH has posted a statement to the Fed's Head blog
<http://www.fredshead.info/2019/04/orbit-reader-20-removed-from-aph-catalog.html>
<http://www.fredshead.info/2019/04/orbit-reader-20-removed-from-aph-catalog.html>
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