One other thing I've learned about recordings: there have been times when I
have been at workshops that are being recorded. That fact, in concert with
shame I may have been feeling about my issue at the time, or whatever I was
feeling, led me to bypass the opportunity to work. When I work I learn, when I
don't work I learn, so for me it has always been a win/win. Turning off the
camera or cutting/editing the tape is one solution. Taking personal
responsibility (I choose not to work) in the face of reality (the workshop is
being taped) is another. thanks for all the conversation lately. all the best,
sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
2007 US Conference on Systemic Constellations www.constellationsusa.com
PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
828-273-5015
Be realistic; expect a miracle.
But be patient.
The impossible takes slightly longer than the difficult.
To: ConstellationTalk@yahoogroups.comFrom: chrisjwalsh@xxxxxxxxxxxx.auDate:
Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:43:41 +1000Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] Being Recorded
Hi Francesca,I dont video my workshops either precisely for the same reasons
as you.However if the situation changes I may someday wish to do so.All your
comments about peoples sensitivities are the reasons behind why aninformed
consent is necessary. You outline another option a potentialparticipant has
apart from not going to an event that is being videoed They can negotiate
their individual situation with the organiser. That isvery reasonable.Regarding
those who feel unexpectedly overexposed or uncomfortable withtheir
constellation being shown afterwards I am sure most organisers wouldbe
comfortable discussing it after the conference or workshop is over.Perhaps that
should be included in the original consent information. Ofcourse the capacity
to retract consent after the workshop /conference wouldneed to be time limited
to be workable.However those who sign a consent are really not in a position to
take anykind of moral stand about videoing the work afterwards. That seems to
be away of avoiding taking responsibility for their own personal discomfort
andwhat that says about themselves. So we need to cater for
reasonablesensitivities without encouraging prissiness and
over-preciousness.Ultimately people do need to take responsibility for their
signing of aninformed consent form. hasta la vistaChris WalshMelbourne,
Australiawebpage: www.cwalsh.com.auFrom:
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ConstellationTalk@yahoogroups.comSubject: [ConstellationTalk] Being
Recorded/ThyroidSheila, David, Christina & all the teachers in the
conversation,Regarding confidentiality and taping, I appreciated Sheila's
release statement. It is one of the warmest and most open I have seen.I would
not do taping at a workshop myself. Generally, I think some people find
photography entertaining, or are relaxed about it while others are not. We may
all be facilitators, but we are still individuals. There does not seem a
contradiction to me that I would not choose to be filmed, but I am very
thankful for all of those training forums which provided videos which have
supported my learning. Many participants who attend the forums which are filmed
have been involved with therapy, are professional people and have discussed
personal issues for years. Often, I am working with people who are none of the
afore mentioned. Some participants are coming without the knowledge of other
family members. Recently I heard someone discussing filming a business
constellation to allow a person to share the constellation with partners. It
was a structural issue, not personal, and that seemed valuable, given the other
partners had consented to constellation.My first time preparation for a
constellation at an Intensive training in Zist, involved speaking with several
elder aunts and my mother regarding a systemic trans trans-generational issue,
and I had asked their permission to do the constellation at the Intensive. I
would not have done the constellation if it had been filmed because of the
sensitivity around privacy that my Elders had. (All of the women who had given
me the history were in their 70's & 80's). I appreciated a lecture at the last
Intensive when Hunter Beaumont asked not to be recorded while he was sharing a
developing observation. Of course there have been times when he had been
filmed/recorded, but there was a delicacy in the development of the
conversation which he seemed to respect. I also wonder that some folks who are
not used to being filmed might have an inclination to censure if aware of being
recorded. As the constellation Circle becomes broader and more public, it may
be that these questions become more carefully considered. The training forums
which have historically been taped have included a great deal of lecture and
actual teaching, and I have sometimes wondered if the families of the
participants would be comfortable with their issue getting international
viewing, but I have definitely benefited from the generosity of those who
contributed.In another venue I know of a taping in which the participant
afterward asked that their inclusion be edited out for the privacy of their
family. I think out of respect, those who do tape should be prepared to do that
if it is requested. Sometimes the work goes in unexpected directions. I think
the invitation to see if the filming makes one weaker or stronger, is just
that. Not a pressure, not a judgment, just a way to evaluate if it is right for
me (or others) as a participant, or facilitator. The International Conference
has had a tradition of asking individual facilitators if they wish to have
their workshops taped. It is optional.Thank you to Johannes: "In my opinion,
whatever is on the tape reflects internal aspects in this specific
(videotaping) situation, with this particular facilitator, with the particular
inner state of the client in mind, with the particular group of people present.
This should be somehow related to the viewer. In Germany exactly this
misunderstand led to devastating press coverage by the press."This is a good
reminder that we may create a slippery slope if we began quoting one-time
observations as gospel. I appreciate all the sharing and thought around this
issue.Re: Thyroid cancer In one instance a family had many manifestations of
medical difficulty among women in one family, all in the throat: hx of throat
cancer, thyroid disease, esophageal varices. The constellation brought out an
unexpressed scream by a generation who had been systematically raped. This was
also remembered historically after the constellation was done. Perhaps you
could say the women who could not scream had been forgotten? (Remembered in the
symptoms of many female descendents.All My Relations,Francesca[Non-text
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