Dear Jack, dear all
I agree with where this conversation is going. I have experienced working with
entities from several directions. Years ago I was introduced to extractions of
energies by Canadian shamans doing cedar oil ceremonies. A complex process that
takes a lot of awareness and training and I think one would have to become a
shaman in order to work this way. For one reason the energy can leave one
person and enter another.
My next introduction was working with Brazilian spiritist. Spiritism is a
combination of early christianity and native shamanic practices. There believe
is that entities can be disembodied spirits that don’t know that their host has
died. When someone dies an unexpected death like in an accident, war or murder,
the soul is jolted out of the body, separated and floats in a space of limbo.
In christianity there is the term purgatory, it is neither heaven nor hell.
This space has no sense of time and little sense of awareness. Some of the
spirits panic in that space and are looking for another host. In normal
circumstances our ‘spiritual' immune system is strong enough to reject this
intrusion. That is different when we are depressed or sick.
The assessment for this issue has to be thorough and we have to be very clear
that this is not related to a personal split, or something that should be
integrated. Because the process of dealing with an entity is a release into the
light. Also something no taken to lightly, because a representative has to step
into this role and cross a threshold, at least to the extend that the energy is
released.
Elmar
Board Member, North American Systemic Constellations (NASC)
"Creating educational conferences, events and activities that expand the
understanding of Systemic Constellations."
On Feb 1, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Laure Porché laure.porche@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also agree with Heiki that you're being initiated, and that's why I recommend
getting training, especially if you are concerned about safety. It will help
you tremendously in understanding the process and making sure that everybody
in the group is safe.
Blessings,
Laure
On 01/02/2017 08:53, Heiki Eesmaa heiki.eesmaa@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:heiki.eesmaa@xxxxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk] wrote:
Hi Jack!
I just want to refer that there have been a bunch of threads that touch on
the topic already. Search for "entities" in the archive.
As far as I understand the facilitator's scope of perception determines the
scope of the field that you'll be working in. Personality parts or the
deceased or their fragments simply don't appear in some facilitators'
constellations. I am guessing the same is true for entitities (I don't get
them, even though I know some modalities that work with them). If you don't
have preparation in some kind of shamanism or healing work that accommodates
entities AND they start turning up in regular constellations, well, this may
be your initiation rite. I'd say your scope or breadth of work is being
pushed.
all the best
Heiki
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx
<mailto:anngwyn@xxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk]
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Greetings from Mexico City,
While I believe these kinds of issues to be very real, if a client presents
with this as an issue I will generally refer them to another practitioner
,energy healer, curandera, or medicine person with the training and skills
necessary to successfully navigate those realms.
And it is also true that systemic entanglements can and do sometimes feel
like possession. and if this is the case the SCW can be very effective.
Also, there have been times when various uninvited entitites have shown up
in constellations and since they are there, I work with them like any other
reprepresentative.
Warm Regards,
Anngwyn St. Just Ph.D.
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Subject: [ConstellationTalk] I want your help. I have a question about
entities, dark forces, attachments, etc & Family Constellations
Over the past 8 months, since I've opened my mind a bit more, I've had a
number of clients approach me regarding entities and feeling they had
beings/entities attached to them.
I'm cautious about working with these forces. Though I do believe
Constellations can help.
Questions
Do any of you have experience working with these issues and if so what
results have you experienced?
How do you create a safe enough space to work in these realms? For the
representatives too? (I'm concerned about representatives carrying these
energies)
I want to be of service and I believe constellations can help, but I have to
make it safe enough for all concerned. This is my top priority.
Thank you for your input
Jack
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