Hello Chris and friends . I love your line, 'the healing edge where spirit and
science meet'.
Sounds like a beautiful name for the first Constellation Festival.
A humble festival? A festival who's context is humility? I think that when the
festival is created, the end result the organisers work toward will create the
appropriate context.
My idea was never one to say to the rest of the healing therapeutic communities
... OH BABY LOOK AT US, THIS WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
As I said before the festival is a celebration that produces all of its
subsequent benefits not the least of which is to showcase the work and generate
workshops for the myriad of highly trained facilitators who have done 'the hard
yards' but have difficulty creating a self sustaining client stream.
Anyway, guess you'll be back from Germany soon and we can talk about it some
more.
from the Valley
David
Pearls from the South Seas
On 30/04/2013, at 10:35 PM, Chris Walsh wrote:
Hi all,
This has been a very lively discussion. Nothing like a bit of injustice
perpetrated by a stereotypical villain to get the juices flowing! We can
then in good conscience step into victim or rescuer mode. Of course we
should be thankful to the perpetrator for providing us with such a
wonderful opportunity to feel good about ourselves.
However if we were serious about applying what we know about systemic
thinking and reconciliation, it may serve us better to give the so called
perpetrator a place in our hearts. It may serve us better to be a bit more
humble. After all constellation work has taught us that adoption of an "us
versus them" mentality reduces us all. Maybe it would serve people better
to look at what Rupert Sheldrake has to offer and as well to look at what
mainstream science has to offer. After all western science has dramatically
reduced the mother and infant mortality rates in childbirth. It has done a
lot of good in many fields, which you would have trouble guessing when you
read the recent posts on Constellation Talk. In fact we couldn't be having
this conversation across the globe with each other if not for the internet
which has been made possible by mainstream science.
Just because there are cynical people who masquerade as scientists and who
are apparently making decisions about TED talks does not mean all
scientists are like that. We also need to be wary of wholesale demonisation
of psychiatric medication. I personally know of a number of cases where
psychiatric medication has literally saved people's lives,where nothing
else has worked - including constellations.
Nonetheless it is true that these medications are often over prescribed
and over pushed by the pharmaceutical companies who profit from them. It is
also true that if we, in the constellation field , spread misinformation
about these medications in the opposite direction, then we are no better
than the pharmaceutical companies. The only difference between us and them
is that our greed feeds our own self righteous egos rather than our
wallets.
I would rather look towards reconciliation and a festival organised humbly
with that attitude would be a wonderful idea. Perhaps we can then look
at the healing edge where science and spirit meet.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:46 AM, johnny <udderlybuttery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
**
Hello everyone!
David's idea of involving the love tribe/burning man/festival community
with Constellations is an ingenious one. Coming from one who frequents
festivals I know that this is an immense community that would support this
healing methodology. I am planning on attending Burning Man this year and
would be happy to inquire about geting involved for the next.
I very much agree with Dan's disertation concerning the use of
Constellations as replacement of meds. This idea will undoubtably be met
with much opposition. For the time being it would seem that rather then
even thinking about the replacement of these perscriptions we might present
their substitute to the largest subculture that it resonates with,
Burningman (the second biggest city in nevada for one week anually). These
very dangerous pharmaceutical or better yet pharmosuicidal companies will
do everything in there power to prevent our sucess. Its hard to begin to
envision what we are up against. Rather then ever throwing around the
dangerous ideas what can be constued to as attacking them, disparing
profits etcetera we might take a less direct but equally effective action.
Just a thought
Jonathan Berlingeri, student at suny rockland
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, david ward <theocean@...> wrote:
contemplate the idea of transforming your fall conference, ConstellateUS
Hi Alison .. glad you like my festival idea .. its a bit late to
2013 into ConstellateandCelebrationUS 2013 but the following event, well,
anything is possible
I'm only aware of the festival stream because of my children's friendswho are creators, contributors and followers of the festivals.
The core of a festival is to gather together to celebrate .. which theyall do with abandon ... the sort of abandon we're familiar with when we're
in our late teens to early thirties.
However the festival generally has a spiritual context that is expressedin its opening and closing ceremonies. Additionally various 'villages' are
set up in the festival that offer a variety of activities and workshops
that can include yoga, meditation Kundalini dance etc etc
Festivals are incredibly popular and well supported ... Burning Man nowhave a draw you need to go into, and if your lucky enough, you get the
right to buy a ticket, they sell 50,000 tickets now ... there was a
festival in outback Australia, three hours drive from Cairns that was held
in conjunction with 2012 total eclipse ... 15,000 came from overseas ..
mostly Europe and the US and another 15,000.
The essence to the success of the of the current 'festival movement' isto gather together in celebration .... maybe its not to late to include a
section in ConstellateUS 2013 where the specific activity is for the
participants to celebrate the significant benefits they have received from
constellation work and the opportunities it offers us all... What a
Party!!!!!
I think I'll suggest it to my friends in Sydney as welleven one that is called a "conference" (yes, I'm thinking about the US
hope to see you in Seatlle
all the best
David
Pearls from the South Seas
On 11/04/2013, at 7:19 AM, Alison Fornes wrote:
Hello all,
David, I love this idea! A festival of the sort you describe, perhaps
constellations conference in the Fall)...but generally, it seems this is a
time for the crumbling of old institutions, and the arrival of the new
paradigm.
brings us back to the feminine and the earth.
I like Michael's reference to witches, as the "new" paradigm will
support this emergence. The first is very simple: help people find and
We have an initiative at the US conference to identify ways we can
connect with Constellators who are local to them. I imagine these nodes and
the growing network will naturally build the new model you describe. But,
if there are more thoughts on seeding and cultivating the changeover, I'd
love to hear them!
existing reality, to change something build a new model that makes the old
Alison Fornes
On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:24 PM, david ward <theocean@...> wrote:
Hi Dan and other members
Buckminster fuller says 'you never change things by fighting the
model obsolete'
psychotherapeutic model is the dilemma, a bit like the inventors of the
Maybe the attempts to date to deliver constellation work in the
internal combustion engine attempting to fit their device to the horse.
They needed a new vehicle for their engine and invented the automobile.
what Phizer and friends think or don't think will be irrelevant.
I appears that constellation work may need a new vehicle .. then
constellation work, in its various form is the theme ... the festival may
One of the possible options is to create a series of festivals where
includes music dance theatre meditation in a context of joy, happiness,
community, intimacy belonging etc.
would be created with view of attracting thousands of people and would
The festival ' The Heart of Life', might be a good name for it,
probably run for 4 to 7 days
but three of the myriad of events that happen globally each year
Burning Man, Rainbow Serpent and the Boom festival in Portugal are
another branch of our work, and, we are currently investigating the
My partner Janne Martinengo and I have a similar dilemma with
festival style option in taking the work to a new level.
facilitator sitting in a circle with 20 or so people, constellation work
I think if we insist on containing constellation work to a
will remain the worlds best kept secret.
of mainstream science for constellations work? Others point out correctly
with respect and love
David Ward
Healesville
Pearls from the South Seas
On 11/04/2013, at 3:57 AM, Dan Booth Cohen, PhD wrote:
Good conversation. Glad to kick it off.
Lawrence asked the question directly: Of what use is the approval
that the dreamy landscape of Constellations can easily co-exist with the
concrete and steel provided by our science and technology. Why devote
energy to a conflict? Can we Constellators pursue our art and let the
scientists pursue their technologies?
MA USA. There are 4.6 million people in the metro area. 10% of the
A lot probably depends on geography and culture. I live in Boston,
population takes psychiatric medications. 25% of college students have a
mental health diagnosis for which they are medicated.
Ativan, Xanax, Zoloft and many other best-selling psychiatric medications.
Pfizer is a corporate sponsor of TED Talks and the manufacturer of
The psychiatric medication industry depends on consciousness = brain.
Depression, anxiety, etc. are now classified as brain diseases. The
medications fix what is wrong with the brain. That is their premise. If it
is disproven, then many of the 460,000 people in the Boston area who ingest
these chemicals may look more closely at non-medication treatments.
approval of mainstream science. However, what the Sheldrake-TED controversy
For me, the answer to Lawrence's question is we do not need the
shows is that we have their active and aggressive opposition. TED took down
the Sheldrake talk because Pfizer and other corporate sponsors pressured
them to suppress content which is bad for their business. In this
atmosphere, it is difficult for Constellations to gain acceptance.
work only with the trickle of people who find their way to us. However,
We can content ourselves to avoid conflict, accept what is, and
every Constellation I do inspires me to make the experience more widely
available. I yearn for the day when a person who is feeling crushed under
the weight of dark emotions and dangerous impulses can be referred by their
physician for a Constellation instead prescribed a toxic chemical which
they will likely have to take for the rest of their lives.
WA <http://constellateus.com/conference2013/>
Dan
Dan Booth Cohen, PhD
2013 US Systemic Constellations Conference, October 10-13, Seattle,
August 4, 2013, Farmington, CT <http://constellateus.com/intensive2013/>
6th North American Systemic Constellations Intensive, July 31 -
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosabelle White Aguirre
<http://www.hiddensolution.com/> www.HiddenSolution.com
781-718-7158
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
de Rice
ConstellationsSent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:37 PM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] reTED Talks, Rupert Sheldrake and
personal level. I honor what has come before that is at the service of
I am humbled by what this work has done for our family at a
healing.
happy that this machine works and am grateful to those who came before to
I personally don't need to see the cogs in the machine, I am very
build it.
serv.
I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that is exchanged on this list
this list.
Thank you Chris Walsh and thank you all my esteemed professors on
zaquie%40zaquie.com> > wrote:
In gratitude,
Rosabelle White Aguirre de Rice
Bilingual Consultant/Asesora Bilingüe
Xochikezalli@... <mailto:Xochikezalli%40gmx.com>
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Zaquie Meredith <zaquie@... <mailto:
theories are
This is so ridiculous. We judging whom we should honor.All
eyes,complementary.
We don't need any scientific evidence to what we can see with our
is sciencehearts and souls in constellations.
My God, when we give "ears"to these political discussions on what
be humbleor notdon't we become just like them?
And Sheldrake is alive. Thank you for his huge contribution. Lets
and honor this!
Zaquie C Meredith
S.Paulo, Brazil
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
