Hello Sadha,
My understanding was that Karen's post was about psychodrama, not
psychotherapy.
All for now...
Anngwyn
In a message dated 3/16/2009 1:36:32 P.M. W. Europe Standard Time,
familyconstellationinfo@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Karen,
Here are some of my thoughts on psychotherpy in comparison to FCW for your
consideration.
FCW is a living science more than a philosophy.
Phenomenonology is the format it functions in.
Experiential learning is the clinical pathway.
Transformation of Human Energy states is the outcome.
Psychotherapy deals with the negative effects of collective conditioning and
supression. Its strategic intervention is designed to assist people to
express inner tensions that have repressed their natural biological and
instinctual drives. Dr. Jerome Liss, an American psychiatrist, author and
director of
the Center For Bio Systemics in Rome Italy has researched much on the
biological and psychological imperatives of releasing emotions in this way.
His work supports the rationale that on a physical level these intense
cathartic expressions create a rest-action equilibrium essential for the
rythem of
life. He refers to a richohet effect of opposites that happens when energy
vacillates between two energy extremes. The outcome of this effect is the
creation of an inner pathway to establish balance or centering. This is the
work
of psychotherapy. Its basic strategy is to assist people to self explore
their instinctual boundaries beyond their collective conditioning. The
negative
effects of this can be felt as the pain of separation and "blind love," and
suffering. Afterwards the letting go or relaxation response attunes the client
to a reclaimed authenticity. This is where it ends. There is no connection to
a transcendent movement that can take the person higher into the spiritual.
FCW offers a new and reciprocal, even revolutionary system to positively
compliment psychotherapy. Psychotherapy has polarised to the negative pole of
transformative practice; and FCW has taken up the positive pole of
transcendence of all duality. Psychotherapy by itself remains tethered to
patterns of
expression that vacillate between polarity for self-exploration, understanding
and the dissolution of conditioning. FCW takes from instinct, gives to
intuition and moves to the trancedental in one continuous movement. Or another
way
of putting it is that it takes from the past, transforms in the light of the
present and creates a positive future. It bypasses the duality of mind and
conditioning with detatched observation of effects only. The positive effects
of this are felt as oneness, conscious love, lightness and celebration of
something higher (spirit.)
Karen you say "skeptical people are usually those who have not experienced
the work or have an intense loyalty to psychotherapy.Karen you say "skeptical
people are usually those who have not experienced the work or have an intense
loyalty to psychot
Embracing this loyalty of skeptics and honouring the two complimentary
polarities at work here is a good starting point. Really psychotherapy has
remained seperate from transcendent, spiritual reform since its inception. Our
challenge as FC therapists is to bring together that which has been seperated
-in
order- to facilitate a "whole" or totally "holistic" form of human healing
and therapy.
Many thanks for raising this issue
Kind Regards and love to you
Sadhana
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(mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) , "Karen Carnabucci" <karenc@....>
wrote:
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Thank you for your welcome, Anngwyn and others.
Systemic Constellation Work has been slowly being introduced to the
psychodrama community for some years now. A practitioner from Switzerland
think) offered a presentation a number of years ago – I did not attend, asI
was interested in other topics then. Since the early 2000s, with ongoingthere
discussions and reports with Ron Anderson, the psychodramatist who brought
Constellation Work to the Midwest states here, I have become slowly
interested. Ron and our colleague, Donna Little from Canada, presented
on the topic about two years ago, and Donna and I presented a session lastWe
year. Now Ron and I are presenting later this month in St. Louis, Mo., at
our national conference on using Constellation Work with couples. (See
www.asgpp.org)
Some psychodramatists are very interested in Constellation Work and others
are skeptical and cannot understand how one can "feel into" the
representation without role reversal. It seems to me that the skeptical
people are usually those who have not experienced the work directly and/or
have intense loyalty to psychodrama.
Ron thinks Constellation is the direction that Dr. J.L. Moreno, the
developer of psychodrama, would have taken if he had lived into the 21st
century. It is actually more aligned with Moreno's other contribution, that
of sociometry. There are, of course, many parallels and many differences.
have been writing articles – originally for the psychodrama journal whichis
now on hiatus – that will eventually be published somewhere. We want to(http://www.lakehousecenter.com/) > www.lakehousecenter
inform the psychodrama community about Constellation Work. I myself am
completely enchanted with Constellation Work and want to learn it and
understand it as best I can. I also see value in psychodrama and sociometry
and am combining the methods as I know one well and am now learning the
other.
I would be interested in your thoughts about the underlying philosophy and
goals and how they are different on this list – and perhaps others would be
too.
Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
(262) 633-2645
<mailto:karenc@mai> karenc@...
Lake House Health & Learning Center
932 Lake Ave.
Racine, WI 53403 (USA)
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From: ANNGWYN@... [mailto:ANNGWYN@ From
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:05 AM
To: karenc@...
Subject: welcome
Greetings from the Lake of Zürich!
Welcome to the international online systemic constellation community. This
group does not include all of us, however, because of the English language
limitations for some practitioners. There are other online groups in
Portuguese and Spanish and probably some in the Asian languages , as well.
I am happy to hear that you are going to be presenting the systemic
constellation work to the psychodrama community and I can imagine that they
will find the work interesting. When I first became involved with this
( in 1997 ) many people assumed that it was just another form of<_http://jobs.http://jobs.<WBRhttp://jobs.http://jobshttp://jobs.<WBRhttp://j_ ;
psychodrama , which it is not. While they both have common roots the
underlying philosophy and goals are very different.
I too learned a lot from Heinz Stark, and have the greatest respect for his
work.
Warm Regards,
Anngwyn St. Just
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