Hi Margreet
How are you? I hope you are fine.
I've read your interesting posts.
Can you talk more about "six archetypal ways oof using our muscles"? And how do
you approach that? What kind of exercise do you use.
I've mixed aikido with this and "archetypal constellation".
I'm really interested.
Thank yuo so much. Nice to hear you again
All the best
Artur
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From: Margreet Mossel
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:25 PM
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Dear Chris
Yes, we come from both sides of the world, and perhaps from both sides in
the medical field, but maybe it helps that we were sitting next each other
the first year in Zist!!
At this moment in my life I enjoy the fruits from my old profession as a
physical therapist (and all other things that I have learned during that
time) more than ever. All the experience and expertise that I have build up
during my work with people with physical or other problems help me to
understand and use the systemic work in another way. I will say something
more about my last seminar in Poland to explain how I work with the body. I
had the luxury of five days to work with constellation-colleagues on the
subject of resonance and I will give you an overview of what we did.
The central theme in my seminar was how to use the body as an instrument for
resonance, for centring and as a source of information.
There are three bodies in a constellation: my own body as a facilitator, the
clients body and the body of the representatives. All these bodies function
as instruments for the soul, and we can receive a lot of very practical
information from the body, if we know how to listen to it or look at it.
We started with experiencing our own body. We looked at the difference
between the muscles and the structure of the bones and how to use them. We
did exercises to experiment with the body and to find our centre in many
different ways, al embedded in the systemic work. The participants were very
open to this new approach and therefore they could try out for themselves
how this physical work could influence their own perception and what effect
it had on 'the client'.
During constellations we could look closer at the meaning of posture and
movements and what it tells us about the origin and the solution of a
problem.
In the mornings I worked within the physical theme. During the afternoon we
would do personal work and applications of the morning work in observing,
understanding, doing constellations or systemic interviews
We looked at the six archetypal ways of using our muscles, and at the
different ways of sitting on our bones. We did stretching for the muscles to
reset and update their tension. We looked closer to the directions of energy
through the bones and we did an experiment with the full bowing of the body
and the effect it had in the body and on the ones who were bowed for. We
looked at different ways to energise the body.
It was interesting to see how for instance shock at an early age played a
role in some of the personal issues. Although this is not a systemic problem
but a physical/electrical problem - because it is the result of something
that has happened to you in your own life - it has a systemic effect in
almost the same way as the 'unterbrochene hinbewegung' (how do we call this
in English? Disturbed reaching out movement or so?). After a severe shock
the healing contact with the mother is also blocked and the mother can't do
anything to reach the young child anymore. So we worked in a specific
physical way with this issue of shock.
The metaphysical structures that I explained were also helpful to understand
the difference between an emotional and a mental problem, and how each one
of them needs something else to move on and to be over. (more about that in
a mail that I send earlier today to the group)
We looked at the four different types of emotions and how to work with each
of them - or not.
We also looked at very practical things like yawning, breathing, bowing and
the effect of wearing high heels during a constellation. The main topic was
centring while sitting and while standing.
We looked at the effect of judgement on a difficult situation, we found out
that the body always knows the way out, and that the body is always right,
if we only know how to listen to it. We did a few constellations in which
the symptom was also set up with a separate representative. We noticed that
when we centre the body well, then we ARE centred and we are in resonance
with ourselves, with the other family, with the disease and with the soul.
We worked with only two rules:
1. don't hurt yourself or someone else
2. don't believe it before you have tried it out for yourself - no
matter how long it takes or needs.
We all had the experience that the physical work helped and supported the
constellations an the personal processes and certainly made it easier and
less complicated to work.
Hope this explains some of the areas where I work in.
Love
Margreet Mossel
www.opstellingen.com <http://www.opstellingen.com/>
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[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Chris Walsh
Verzonden: vrijdag 18 mei 2007 13:46
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Hi Margreet,
I am actually presenting a workshop on that theme at the USA conference. At
the moment it has the somewhat less poetic title of "Mindfulness as a
Training Method for Phenomenology" Mindfulness is a type of Buddhist
meditation which among other things helps you to become exquisitely aware of
subtle sensations and energies moving through the body. It also clears a
space in which spontaneously arising wisdom (or phenomenological insight)
can appear. So I think it is a very practical way of establishing resonance
between the body (our instrument) and the information of the soul. I find it
intriguing that both of us from opposite sides of the planet (and probably
quite different professional backgrounds) have come to similar conclusions.
Looking at the content of your workshop on your website it sounds as if you
are also approaching this theme from a different angle. So I suspect our two
workshops would be quite complementary. I wish I was going to Cologne next
week so I could attend yours. I am sure I would learn something quite
valuable. Perhaps some other time!
In the meantime a discussion of practical ways of establishing resonance
between the body and the information of the soul in this forum could be very
rewarding.
hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
webpage: www.cwalsh.com.au
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Hi Sheila
If I would go to the conference as a facilitator I would of course want to
know more about resonance between the body (our instrument) and the
information of the soul. I would like to find out how resonance can be
achieved in a practical way and understand more about the metaphysical
structure that is working behind our systemic work.
But 'coincidentally' that is already my special field of interest and I have
developed a lot of ideas, insights and techniques for that. Some of them I
will share in a short workshop in Cologne next week! My experience is that
constellation-colleagues (and medical or psychological professionals)
benefit a lot from these practical insights and subtle experiences.
Hope to meet you again in Cologne!
Margreet Mossel
www.opstellingen.com
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Hello everyone,
I am in the midst of organizing the 2007 US Conference on Systemic
Constellation Work, and have a general question for the group: if you were
to attend such a conference, what is the one workshop that you would most
value at this time; i.e. what is the area where you feel you could benefit
the most in adding to your current knowledge base; or the area that comes up
again and again in your work, which you feel would benefit from greater
insight or knowledge?
I really appreciate your responses, in advance of getting them! I believe
that we have competent expertise in the US and great talent among the 9
international faciliatators who are coming, and having heard from a number
of you, I know that many of you are looking to this conference to deepen
your practice. Since there will also be DVDs available of many of the
workshops, I am interested in creating the most fruitful opportunity for
those who will come as well as those who were unable to.
This holds possibilities for a general discussion about the gaps in our
learning, and you may also respond to my email address
peacefulcentre@ <mailto:peacefulcentre%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com
<mailto:peacefulcentre%40hotmail.com> ,
whichever you feel most appropriate.
Thank you, and hope your lives and your work go well! all the best, sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
2007 US Conference on Systemic Constellations www.constellationsusa.com
PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
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