Hi
What do I have to do so that I recieve a weekly digest instead of all the
emails?
I decided to change my dissertation to HOW DO GESTALT THERAPISTS UTILIZE
OTHER APPROACHES? rather than hopw do hestalt therapists use order of love.
.i love the subject but my research went somewhee else...
Thank you al for your support...
any comments welcome
thanks again
david G (Malta)
-------Original Message-------
From: Barbara Morgan
Date: 21/11/2006 13:18:19
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] tasks and duties
Dear Max,
As your response links directly to the article in the previous issue of The
Knowing Field I would ask that it be included in the next issue of the
journal as a letter to the Editor. Responses to articles are an important
part of the journal for me and should be included there. That way those who
have read the article, as well as the authors themselves have more
opportunity to respond if they wish to do so. That doesn't mean that there
can't also be wider discussions on this site around this issue. This
promotes cross fertilisation between the journal and this discussion site
and I am all in favour of that.
Best wishes
Barbara Morgan
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Message Received: Nov 20 2006, 11:35 PM
From: "Max Dauskardt" <max@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] tasks and duties
Only a few days ago could I get hold of issue 8 of ? the knowing field? from
June 2006
and was glad to read the very interesting discussion about mirror neurons
between Jen Altman and Franz Ruppert.
About halfway down I got distracted from the topic of the discussion by the
following passage:
?Jen:.., the way I?ve seen Bert Hellinger work nowadays, he nearly always
selects the representatives himself. If a client comes to someone and says,
?Will you be my??? he could be channeling information. If the client is not
doing the selection, this becomes more problematic.
Franz : That?s why I don?t? do it. As a facilitator I may mix the client?s
process with my own issues. When I select the representatives instead of the
client I get too involved. As facilitator I am standing on the edge,
observing the system as a whole.
It is the client?s task to select the representatives;
The task of the representatives to express freely what they feel
anuyd the facilitator?s duty to make a solution happen step by step, within
the limits provided by the client.?
I am left wondering, is Franz stating his personal preference of working or
is he suggesting the above to be rules that are to be followed generally?
I fail to see why I get too involved when I select the reps, notwithstanding
of course the general possibility ? I may mix the client?s process with my
own issues? ,
something we eternally have to deal with anyway.
Not sure ?channeling? of information takes place during the moment of
selection, I rather feel, that is happening during and being aided by a
collected placing of the initial reps by the seeker/client.
while it is surely appropriate to ?stand on the edge? observing the system
as a whole, however just as much do I deem it appropriate to at times be
right in the centre of the constellation thus getting an ?insiders feeling?,
to then step back to check that from a different angle.
Franz?s allocating tasks and duties to the human elements of a constellation
seem a touch rigid to me; isn?t the process rather one of a communal
exploration, a journey into the unknown where at times the different parts
melt and converge into one another.
When it comes to me, the constellator, not knowing how to continue for
example, isn?t it frequently very helpful to say so and check with the other
participants, thus possibly getting fresh impulses, rather than breaking off
with a justifying: ?there is no energy here??
Being a constellator to my understanding is the privilege of temporarily
getting ?at times deeply- involved in someone elses family system, along
the way gaining insights into that system?s fate perhaps even it's destiny.
Max
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