Theresa wrote:
Thank you all for the discussion on twins. I made reference to this
when I joined the group in early July. Myself being a twin and
awareness of being a triplet for a short time in utero.
I didn't know how to formulate the questions for the answers I sought and
believed that with patience answers would come.....and indeed it has. I have a
lot of reading to do and would be very happy to receive other suggestions.
Miscarriage or spontaneous abortion seems to be well documented in
this discussion but what of family dynamics and active terminations
not just for the foetus but the mother and father and other siblings?
I love this group forum.......Thank you!
Theresa Commadeur in KL
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Theresa,
Welcome to the forum. I assume that KL stands for Kuala Lampur. If so, that
puts you much closer to Australia than the USA. My experience is very limited
but I do know of one FC practitioner who himself speaks of being a triplet
like you and that is Heinz Stark, who focuses on training facilitators in the
USA.
You can find out about Heinz's "Stark Institute" through Margot Ridler's
"Orders of Life" website
_http://www.starkinstitute.com/ordersoflife/index_usa.html_ ;
(http://www.starkinstitute.com/ordersoflife/index_usa.html)
As for your questions about the effect of conscious deliberate abortion on
the parents and other children, I've read where Bert does not like the act to
murder, but he does state that the act puts so much of a burden of guilt on
the parents that their relationship usually breaks up.
From my own experience as a representative, it is clear that aborted
children need to find their place in the correct birth order of the siblings.
There
is such a feeling of great relief and peace when this is done in the
resolution of the constellation and the love that flows between the "new
addition"
and the living siblings is deeply moving. The mother and father also seem to
find peace in bearing the more "objective" guilt of the abortion now that they
recognize and honor the being of the fetus as part of the family.
Theresa, I also would like to address your question from your original
posting of July 1 (which can be accessed from the group website here:
_http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/1191_ ;
(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/1191)
<<By the way I am assuming we can assist healing of disease pathways.
e.g.: the 1st time diabetes entered the family.>>
About a week and a half ago, I attended a wonderfully innovative
constellation workshop facilitated by Margot Ridler in the Pasadena area. Her
innovations are in the area of direct prayer and shamanic rituals and you can
read
about it on her website here:
_http://www.margotridler.com/_ ;(http://www.margotridler.com/)
In the constellation, there were two representatives for the client as wife
and for her husband. But then the other 23 participants were all
representatives and all representatives of ancestors for both wife and
husband. It was
very powerful because we had 23 ancestral streams called in to support the two
streams of the wife & husband.
It turned out that the wife's distress traced back well beyond the usual
limit of 7 generations and had its source in a distant woman ancestor, who
finally received the support she needed from other ancestors around her. The
wife-representative then felt the burden of her present distress flow back to
this
ancient ancestor.
Thus I do believe it may be possible, with this kind of expanded
constellation, to find the place where, for example, diabetes may have entered
the
ancestral stream.
Thomas