Hello all, very good thread.. My insight is "Disease" is as divine a gift as
health.. It seeks fulfillment to facilitate change in the person who may be
suffering etc. I've had many, many clients who stated it was the wake-up
call they needed to live the life they were meant to live etc. My other
insight is "What does the disease give you?" A special place in the family,
positive attention? Outer or Inner peace?
Bert gave us some very good insight at Pichl 3 into "disease" a few of them
I will list NOT in any particular order.
The condition itself is Representing someone who is not taken in the System,
a lost one or missing, excluded one who connects through the condition in
present time.
Accept life as it is including Disease and death.. This respect courage and
dignity. allows it to recede IF that is your fate?
LOVE it, do not reject it.. as we all know what resists persists.
Remember the only way to release is to embrace (a paradox of sorts)
Also remember it is about acceptance not forgiveness.
Deitrich Klinghart of Seattle area is doing very interesting work in this
area as well.
Blessings, health and vitality to us all on our healing journey into the
unknown for 2009!
Sincerely Gary Stuart LA, CA Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I'll be happy to send anyone a summation from my first book GOD says, Heal!
" The Gift of Disease" IF interested?
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Breesnee
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:44 AM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ConstellationTalk] this work
Hello and yes to your inquiry. My daughter and I experienced such a
connection with Fran Boring as the facilitator. When the issue is present
and there is illness, it seems that prayer and attention/remembrance lessens
the impact and the symptoms abate somewhat. I can share more if you would
like to email directly.
It is a blessing to your patients that you have this awareness in the
connection between body/mind/soul.
Thank you for this thread. Happy New Year
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Paulo Ferraz e Maria Luiza <
tepedinoml@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tepedinoml%40tba.com.br> > wrote:
To all, specialy medical doctors,health
I'm a medical doctor and a constelator and jusat remembered to ask if any
of you do constlation with simptons and deseases?
I did some spacialy with cronic ans severe desease (tumors, asthma,
psoriasis,cromic amemia, etc) and found they usualy reperesent
and excludes or forgotten member of the family. In result the person
usually improves, no cure occured, which was expected since the deseasswere
cronical and uncurable.constelation
There is a doctor in Goiania, Brasil who is doing a reserch on
in spscific deseases.started
I would like to hear your experince,
best to all
Maria Luiza
Brasilia - Brazil
PS to Daniel,
Since FC can be considered a branch of Family Therapy, I think it will
survive and gain respect as times goes by. At least in Brazil.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel MacLean
To: andystuck@xxxxxxx <mailto:andystuck%40aol.com> <andystuck%40aol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [ConstellationTalk] this work
Hi all,
In Bolivia it was just two of us doing constellations having had formal
training in Buenos Aires. Then there appeared some constellators that just
attended some workshops. The movement was getting strong but then it
to fade. I myself am leaving it behind and exploring other paths.little
I think this work:
- It started too fast, and as the I Ching says, that which takes too
time to grow, soon vanishes."personal
- It is considered new age or any kind of simile.
- It's not easy or prone to be systematized.
- it's not easy or prone to be taught(although it can be learned)
-- It's too shamanic and intuitive, it depends almost nothing on the
therapist's knowledge or curricula but on what Castaneda would say
power" Shamans are born not formed.whose
**** I am using the word shaman or shamanisitc in a very general way****
-- Those who are making the greater efforts to systematize(finding the
grammar and all that nonsense) the work are in the branch of business,
needs and demands are FAR from those of dealing with Soul and OtherForces.
- FC being so, legitimately close to shamanism and religion attractedas
practitioners(too many) with what Jung would call a God Complex. Ah! it is
such a glamorous work, isn't it?
- We live in times when this kind of movements are born and die quickly.
Others are brought to light using the recovered "organs" of diseased
therapies and schools. Hellinger himself recovered so many techniques form
what was not long a ago the last and ultimate fad like NLP.
My own forecast for this work:
- It will give rise to many new approaches using many recovered organs,
visions, and insiparations, from it's brilliant creator. Some may maintain
the word Constellation somewhere in it's new name.
- A small and almost unheard group will keep the standards and the old
flavor.
- In 5 years if we are still alive, it will be one of the many, many
alternative therapies that have came and gone.
- The biggest movement of a particular approach that will still endure
maybe for 100 more yrs. will be... yes our old Dr. Freud and his prodigal
son Lacan and their dusty and old Torah: Psychoanalysis.
The state of the work today?
I think it has already died. What do I, naughty boy, mean with that? Well
just that. Maybe exactly what Nietzsche meant when he said God died. But
the title of a Hellinger's book(in Portuguese) says... something like"Only
When The Fruit Dies, The Seed Sprouts"
Cheers
Daniel.
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