Hi Stephan,
Good topic.
Re maintaining the "empty space", if that's what you meant.
For me, when I feel I am doing good work, when it flows, there is a
little dance between the empty space and back to my mind, where I
have stored up some facts, maybe from the interview, which are often
helpful for the client to digest the work. I think my mind can be
quite useful sometimes and its fits our hollistic view of this work.
Like, let's not exclude anything.
I think I have a little model of the Constellation like a Shakespeare
play, where he wrote the plays in two halves. He would replay the
themes in the first half in the second half, mostly where these
themes would come back to haunt the main character. Now I know why I
studied Macbeth at School!
In a Constellation it seems poetic and heartfelt (literally) to
reply stuff from the start at the end so the client can experience a
shift.
Language can be so beautiful.
David Mathes (Guangzhou and Melbourne, Oz)
Re: Recent conversation
Posted by: "Stephen Campbell" coachuno@xxxxxxxxx elcoachuno
Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:29 am (PST)
Dear Friends,
I am reasonably new to this work and the world it encompasses. I want
to say
that CT has been such a breath of fresh air for me. While I am
completely
bilingual (Spanish and English) and my entire basic training towards
becoming a FC facilitator has been done Spanish, to be able to read and
very occasionally post in English has been a Godsend. I thank Chris for
creating this group and do all that it requires to keep it moving. I too
have been a "guardian" of a professional electronic group and I have
some
appreciation for the time and dedication it requires. A heartfelt
Thank You
Chris!!
I would also like to extend my gratitude to all of those who post on
a more
frequent basis than I. I read them all with care in a effort to learn
and
understand. Frankly some resonate other do not. Not surprising.
I do resonate with the language issues that Wilfred raised. I
fantasized, on
an early morning run following his post, that like magic, and it may
not be
that far off, I could belong to a group like this and presto could
read the
posting in whatever language I chose. And, I could also post in any
language. Unfortunately, the automatic translators are not quite up
to the
task at this time. But what a concept!!
I have been fascinated by the ebb and flow of comments regarding
posting,
staying on topic, and the need to provide monitoring of messages to
insure
the intention and mission of this group. I have put all the comments and
feelings therein expressed up against the "centro vacio" or "empty
space"
that I have learned is crucial in the work as a facilitator. As I have
learned and have observed facilitators like Stefan, Anngwyn and of
course
Bert and Gunthar as they set aside their preconceptions, personal
preoccupations and their prejudices; or so it seems to me the observer.
Obviously, I have no idea what is actually going on within the
confines of
their head; but the sense I have is that is what they do. In my
terms, they
have set their EGO to one side.
Many of these comments that I read flew in the face, from my reading and
understanding, of the concept of an "empty space". I have no
intention to
point fingers I just reflect on the challenge that presents itself
for each
of us to maintain that "empty space" in both our work and in our
lives. For
I am finding that the more I practice maintaining the "empty space"
in my
life the more freedom and peace I experience. And I certainly have lived
through those moments early on in my practice as a facilitator where I,
consciously or unconsciously, left the "empty space" and the work became
turgid and challenging. Likewise in life.
So, what if we experienced both CT and ISCA from the perspective of the
"empty space". Could we give and get far more from each experience
irrespective of their natural imperfections which seem to be the natural
byproduct of their human creation and operation? In Constellation
work we
guide towards the participants, at a soul level, accepting what is
so; could
we do the same thing in our lives?
I am curious and wondering. What say thee?
Fondly,
Stephen
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David Mathes
Working Systemically with Businesses and Families
www.innersuccess.net.au
Member of the The European Systemic Consultants Association, The
International Systemic Constellation Association, The Gestalt Therapy
Association of Australia and New Zealand, The Australian National
Register of Psychotherapists and Counselors, Registration no. 21024.
B. Ec. Grad Dip Organisational Consulting. Adv Dip Gestalt Therapy.
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