Hello Vivian,
I found a brief reference in The Orders of Love (Spanish Edtion), page 440,
Herder (2001). It appears in a Q/A section and I include next a rough
translation:
"Another participant: A technical question: the client only comes in when the
participants have found their correct places?
Hellinger: As a general rule, yes. When others show the client what is really
happening, that has a very different effect to what it would be if he
participated directly. The reason for this, perhaps is that he may resist
internally at some points. Those that act as representatives offer less
resistance. Consequently, the impression is much stronger if it first comes
from others. However, there are cases, I do not ask the client to take his
place, not even at the end. For example if I observe that he feels intimidated;
in such a situation I protect him and only let him observe the work."
I hope this is useful.
All the best and Season Greetings to All!
Tomás Kohn
P.S. The original German title is "Ordnungen der Liebe"; Carl Auer (2000)
----- Original Message -----
From: Vivian Brougton
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: [SPAM][ConstellationTalk] Using a representative for the client
I wonder if I could ask for some help: I am doing some writing at
present on constellations and in particular about the use of a
representative for the client. In later years Hellinger has come to use
the client themselves quite often in the constellation, without a
representative. However in the early days I remember him saying at a
seminar I attended that it was better to use a representative because
the actual client was likely to be too entangled to be in the
constellation at the beginning. If there is one I need a written
reference, and I can't find it. I have gone through his books, most
particularly LHS, Acknowledging What is and Touching Love etc, and I
can't find anything on it. I am pretty sure I have read something about
this somewhere, but I can't find it.
Does anyone have easily to hand a written reference to this in any of
Hellnger's books? It would be enormously helpful to me if you have... I
hope that this is a legitimate use of CT!
warmest wishes for the festive season to everyone.
Vivian
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