Hi Rosalba
I cannot answer your questions about radiation or "greater forces" because I
believe that what needs to be represented in the constellation I am proposing
are survival, migration and assimilation and to see if conflict--cause or
effect--can be resolved. It is this omnipresent dynamic or pattern that needs
help.
Aloha, Sue
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rosalba Stocco <rstocco@...> wrote:
Hi Sue,
I find what you say intriguing, because to me, you are describing the
"greater forces".
So with the description of the constellation involving Stalin, where the
representative for Stalin kept "throwing" representatives of victims to the
ground, until at some point he too laid down with the representatives of the
victims. The representative had said he felt moved by a greater force and
eventually it came to an end. When it came to an end, he simply laid down
and it was over.
If so, this is such a difficult concept to accept.
So if we look at what is happening with the radiation .and do we consider it
the actions of a greater force that we simply accept? How does this fit
with a cosmological event, if at all? Or what might you suggest with that
situation?
Very intrigued by your thoughts
Rosalba
On 2013-08-27, at 9:10 PM, suegary331 <spgyyy@...> wrote:
Hi Sadhana
Thanks for your sharing your thoughts. When I talk of survival or migration
or assimilation I think of the movement of plants, or the earth, or the
universe not just humans with our egos and a self-history we can tap into.
Man thinks about this movement, its cause and its result, maybe some
animals too. The rest happens without thought, just as part of the process
of life in our universe. In any event a conflict of some sort is often part
of the result or cause of this movement.
A plant species migrates to an area with more water or less growth of other
competing plants or for more sun. Conflict is what caused the need for
survival which in turn may precipitate the migration and may also be be
part of assimilation. The earth moves due to pressures within the core of
the earth and in response to (the movement) of other masses. None of this
involves egos or identities or perpetrators. It is just what happens on our
planet and our ever expanding universe.
It is a pattern to be explored and reckoned with. Can we heal the human
part or the other parts? I think we can but we must view and treat this on
a cosmological level even when working on its parts.
Aloha, Sue
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kay Needham
<familyconstellationinfo@> wrote:
Hello ? Suegary
Thankyou for sharing your insights about possabilities for new types of
constellations. I also like the idea of working with the "wide" and ever
expanding boundaries that contain opportunities for growth beyond
conscience/conflict towards consciousness.
Recently Heather Embree pondered the issue of
perpetrators...........perhaps the essence of all conflict?
She said
"Yet I'm still left with not knowing how to move the constellation
forward in
the way of the suffering perpetrators."
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Dan Booth Cohen also some time ago shared that he felt somehow "existance
or the great feminine demmanded more of him"...and yet he did not know
what.
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I shared the following with her recently ...and thought of Dan.
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"moving perpetrators forward happens when they are reminded of their
original manhood. Each attachment to any identity like "being a jew or a
Christian or a wfe or a husband etc " divides, splits and excudes the
whole authentic and natural human being and goes against existential
order in natures growth processes.  Statements that are able to change
direction of soul movement towards growth in this instance are as
follows.
Perhaps setting up two representatives to represent the original man and
the pretended man or two groups of the same facing each other would help.
The true would say to the false.....
I will be a man first
My body mind soul came first.....the jew in me second
Your protection is no longer needed my truth as a man is now enough for me
I am tired of protecting jewish conscience I now rest in my humanness"
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I only offer this as an example of how survival identification patterns
remind us of something that is missing and as you say..... to become
aware and assimilate ie: to put things in a right order, is often all
that is needed to change direction of soul movement towards growth. After
all is'nt the whole play in the field about moving from the false to the
true, the inauthentic to the authentic, the unreal to the real? This to
me is transformation. Is this what you mean by migration? If so this is
momentum on a grand scale.
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Kind regards
SadhanaÂ
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From: suegary331 <spgyyy@>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:40 AM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] new type of constellation
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While awaiting a private long distance constellation last month I came
to the conclusion that the key elements in my upcoming constellation
were the survival, migration and assimilation of my grandparents and
parents. Upon deeper thought it became clear to me that this pattern is
the pattern of life for humans, animals, plants, the earth itself,
water, etc.â"even our ever-expanding universe. And, that an integral
part of this pattern is conflict.
I believe that if constellations are done for this synergy as frequently
and in as many places as possible and/or in as many places as possible
at one time we could shift this dynamic to a more positively functional
one for everyone and everything involved.
This schematic I envision for setting up the constellation has unlimited
potential for flow, growth and resolution. One or more people could
represent each part.
ooooooooo
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SURVIVAL
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ASSIMILATION
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MIGRATION
As a lay person in the world of constellations I have done six
constellations for myself (four remotely since I live in Hawaii) and
represented in around 50 over the years.
I look forward to any comments or feedback, as I am most interested in
getting the momentum going on this idea.
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