[ddots-l] Re: Anybody wanna critique my mix and help me learn?

  • From: "Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:53:40 -0600

I've gotta tell you, I liked it allot. because the shakers were in stereo and panned, they were at a good place in the mix, and they had real dynamics. I might have brought them down just a bit, but it sounded all pretty authentic as it was. I'm not familiar with the musical tradition per se, but liked the voice where it was because it made the piece seem more intensely meditative and personal to my ears. I just liked hearing real interactive dynamics for once, something that is all to rare in seemingly all but Western Art Music AKA Classical in this era of ear shattering compression for the sake of mere loudness signifying nothing.


Nick



----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schucker" <gwynn@xxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Anybody wanna critique my mix and help me learn?


OK, so a friend and I recorded something, and I'm going to explain what
we did and the problems I know about already.

http://personalpages.tds.net/~gwynn/sweetheart.mp3

OK, all I did to it is:  insert sends on rhythm tracks and sent them to
a bus with delay, and changed the volumes on some of the tracks so it
didn't clip on the master bus.

So here are the problems I can see right now, aside from some messed up
rhythms and such, heh.  But at this point I'm more interested in the
mechanics of the mix, if that makes sense.  This is my sonar learning
project.  The flute is too quiet.  The shaker is probably too loud.
Vocals need something or other done to them.  That's off the top of my
head, I need to listen to it more extensively.

So what I'm looking for is this.  Both what you'd do, e.g. raise the
volume of the flute, and how you'd do it, change track volume,
EQ/compression, etc.  Please don't just say, make blah louder, I'm a
newbie and I'm just going to go, how do I do that?  Oh I'm running sonar
producer 6.2.  So I don't have fun things like boost11, unfortunately.
I'm hoping to upgrade soon.

I know a lot of people have way more experience than I do.  I'm happy to
read the documentation mind you, I'm not asking for total handholding
here.  But for instance, people will say things like, oh do some EQ, and
I can see for instance you could do that to make the shaker less sharp
for instance, but then I'm going, OK, how do I tell what frequencies I
need to be playing around with, do I just slap some EQ on it and play
with it until it sounds good or is there some starting point or such?

Anyway, this is mostly raw right from the microphones, except for the
things I mentioned above that I did to it.  Oh the drone thing in the
background is a softsynth, in case that matters.  Any kind of help would
be really appreciated.  I realize of course that a lot of this will come
down to experimentation, but I also know that if I just start doing
stuff to it at random I'll make it sound more horrible than it probably
already does, heh.  Oh and here's my info, in case anybody decides to be
crazy generous and wants to chat about it.  I guess in some ways it
might help to be able to hear individual tracks?

msn: alashkhem@xxxxxxxxxxx
yahoo messenger: alashkhem (running under msn so can't send/receive files)
skype: khomus
email: gwynn@xxxxxxx (in case it doesn't show up in the list headers)
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