Oh shoot sorry sent this mail to the wrong list, wanted to send a simular mail to the dancing dots list reguarding plug ins but this one was actually ment for the mobile speak list. -original message- Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Application accessibility campaining From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 18/06/2011 11:27 Hi Nickus, If I can just bring us away from phones, as the same issue applies with certain manufacturers of great music technology. Certain companies just don't want to have to take on the extra expense required to make their products accessible. The Kontakt player would take most of the musicians and producers projects on this forum to the next level of professionalism, and as for the East West Quantum Leap Music software well, just check out the YouTube clip below... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57hqPPKxsyY Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Dancing dots" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 9:38 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Application accessibility campaining Hi all, i was wondering if any of you go to the effort of contacting 3rd party application manufacturers to raise the issue of accessibility? E.g. If you like a app and want to use it but find that it's not accessible, would you contact the maker and complain or just leave it and accept that you can't use the cool app. Well i am the type of person who will contact them and make them aware of screen readers and accessibility so i was thinking, if more of you also do it we should ask Codefactory to compile a doccument outlining the requirements for a application to be accessible with Mobile speak. If a doccument like this is available it would make contacting and explaining to these companies a lot easayer and i think those who's not contacting these companies now, will start doing it once it's easayer. I would like to hear your views on this, we are very lucky to have screen readers like MS with very little short comings on the phone platforms however there's a short coming with 3rd party apps and with the mobile world moving over to the use of more and more 3rd party apps, it's impossible for MS to keep up to date so I think it's time we start helping them, by helping them we'll also help our selves. PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6218 (20110617) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6218 (20110617) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject�q or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq