I like the hot pres in the Mackies, and if one comports themselves according to the instructions in the manuals, taking that into account, they wont ever be tempted to push things over into clipping, yet theyll have a really hot crisp signal. (smile) Nick --Original Message Text--- From: Mike C Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:09:45 -0600 I couldn't agree with you more Nick, I myself have a Mackie 1402VLZ and have had the unit for about 10 years now, and it still sounds as good as ever. I have looked at the bereingher stuff, and in my opinion it doesn't compare to the Mackie line. For one thing the bereingher distorts if your trim pots are set to high, while the mackie sounds all around great. Again we all have our own tastes I suppose. ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Nick Dotson To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Behrenger mixers According to service technicians in my area that's incorrect. The Behrenger used considerably less robust hardware, and your claims for it are anecdotal in terms of quality as contrasted with the Mackie, that's one reason for the price differential. Nick --Original Message Text--- From: Lewisjalexander@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:04:19 EST hi guys. ok here's a good one for you guys regarding mixers. now my experiences have been both with mackie and behringer alongside a few other manufacturers. the two I will mention are as follows Behringer MX 9000 eurodesk. Mackie 24/8 studio both of the above desks are the same to a pedegree and are high quality 24 channel studio and live consoles. well suited for recording 24 channels of audio. the mackie is more expensive though at S2500 ish and the behringer at S750 ish which features the same high quality hardware. if you want full 24 channel recording on your workstation PCs I'd say go behringer. I have the MX9000 and love it. if you want a good soundcard to support this desk I recommend I'd say a terratec phase 88 card X 3 so you get 24 channels in 3 breakout cards. which of course can be user installed at the front of any base unit which I have done with a few machines and my personal studio. hope all this helps. Personally I find the behringer out of the two is more accessible lew