[ddots-l] Re: How to write four part vocal arrangement where some voices move and some don't
- From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:21:38 -0400
I don't know how Sibelius handles it but I do know that in Lime I would set
up an SATB score with 4 separate staves. After completing input, it is easy
to join top 2 staves into one and also join bottom 2 staves into one. The
result is a two-stave score with soprano and alto on top staff and
tenor/bass on bottom. Visually, the individual voices are identified by the
direction of the stems attached to the noteheads.
Bill
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How to write four part vocal arrangement where some
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No, I wasn't sure whether to put the SA on one staff and the TB on another,
or to make it four separate staves.
Kevin
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How to write four part vocal arrangement where some
voices move and some don't
they are separate, independent parts. I believe you said, each part is on
its own staff. You have nothing to worry about. Just make sure you put the
proper dashes because that's what tells the software how many notes go with
what syllable.
js
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How to write four part vocal arrangement where some
voices move and some don't
John,
What I mean is that in verse one, Soprano has a quarter and Alto has two
eighths on the same identical syllable. What happens in verse one when that
is the case?
Kevin
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How to write four part vocal arrangement where some
voices move and some don't
Hi Kevin,
The short answer to your question is that you'd be surprised that you need
not worry too much about that if all are singing essentially the same
syllables. The multiple verses may get trickier. But usually, for a given
moment in time, if, say soprano1 has quarter, soprano2 has two eighths,
verse1 for that beat is "life", and verse two for that beat is "Gather", I
believe all the vertical alignment will be right. That is, the first column,
if you will, will appear top to bottom:
sop1 quarter, sop2 eighth, verse1 life, verse2 "ga-"
Next column:
sop1 blank space (or secondary cue note for "-ther" in second verse?))
sop2 second eighth note
verse1 dash or just the word life continuing
verse2 "ther"
Now, I've assumed that you have sopranos 1 and2. But if your parts do not
split, Your only concern, I believe is dealing with possible rhythmic
variations among the different verses, if there are any.
I'm not certain how to deal with that. I'd probably use voice1 vor the
soprano's quarter on "life" in verse1, and voice2 for the two eighths
required to sing "ga-ther" in verse2. Or just write 2 eighths tied instead
of a quarter.
But, With each part on its own staff, no splitting, rhythmic variation is
totally free. One part can rest 2 bars while the other has a stream of
eighths.
Now, if you're speaking of doing a piano reduction of 4 parts, say hymnal
style, the freedom I just spoke of will be tough to achieve, unless the
music is largely homophonic.
Having said all that, I must say, I'm no expert and I hope you'll get
another better informed opinion.
Regards,
John s
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 23:50
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Subject: [ddots-l] How to write four part vocal arrangement where some
voices move and some don't
Dear All,
I want to write a four part choral arrangement where some of the
voices move while singing the same syllable and others sing a single note
over that same syllable. If you're writing an SATB arrangement and you
choose the choir template so that each of the choir staves has voice one and
voice two, how do you write the verses under the text if one voice per staff
is moving where the other is stationary? Do you solve the problem by
writing the upper voice above the staff and the lower voice below the staff?
If that's the case, what happens if you have three verses to the song?
Any help would be appreciated.
Kevin
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