[ddots-l] Re: MIDI Controller for accessible drum machine (Session Drummer)

  • From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:06:08 -0400

Hi,
 
Please go to 
HYPERLINK
"http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/MIDIEquip.htm"http://www.dancingdots.com
/prodesc/MIDIEquip.htm 
to see a number of controllers we sell and support.  If you don't find
something there, follow the link to ZZounds at the bottom of that page to
order from our affiliate partner, ZZounds.
 
Thanks,
Bill
 

   _____  

From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:43 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible drum machine


Hi Justin,
 
1. where can I purchase a midi keypad?

*You can get a midi controler at a music store like Guitar Center, or you
can purchase some from Dancing Dots.
2. how much does a midi keypad typically cost?
*Depends on how many keys, (49, 61, 76, or 88 keys,) and depends on the
modle, features, etc.
3. will I need to purchase any gadgets past the midi keypad to get it to
work with sonar?
*If the Midi controler you buy has a USB port, then you won't really need
anything else to connect it to your comp and access Sonar. If it doesn't
have a USB port, then you'll need to get some type of midi interface.
4. what is the url to Omar Binno's site?
*My site is HYPERLINK "http://www.omarbinno.com"www.omarbinno.com
5. within sonar, can you load in your own drum sounds/kits and use them with
the midi keypad if desired? Or are you confined to the ones that come with
sonar?
* You can do this a couple different ways. You can load drum samples using
the SFZ sampler that comes with Sonar, or you can use your midi keyboard to
trigger your drum machine.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:sbleeks@xxxxxxxxxxxx"Stacy Bleeks 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:56 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: accessible drum machine

Hi Justin,
 
First.  That HR16 is a great little drum machine.  It's got a nice groove to
it.
 
If you have a midi keyboard controller, you can, using Sonar, access some
soft synths that come with Sonar.  For example The roland x o x series of
drum sounds such as the 6O6, 8O8, 9O9, plus many others like the CR78 and
various kick drums, snares, high hats, ride cymbals, toms etc. etc. are all
accessible via the soft synths and played using your midi keyboard
controller.  Some of these drum sounds will lay the entire drum kit out
along the keys on your keyboard and sometimes a single drum sound like a
snare or a clap or a zap or a tamborine will take up the entire keyboard
with each key being a different pitch.  Like with many drum machines and
groove boxes you can quantize your beats so that they line up a little
tighter.  I'll be honest, I have used a few programmable drum machines in
the past and their ability to easily nail the quantizing feature was more
intuitive but if you play the keys right on the first or second take this
isn't much of an issue.    Most of the drum sounds played using the midi
keyboard are touch/velocity sensitive so if you press a little harder the
beat will be stronger and if you hold it a touch longer it will ride a
little longer.  
 
In other words, it works.  
 
I'm hoping that someone else can speak to the whole quantizing thing so that
our beats will come out a little tighter etc.
 
There is also something called Session Drummer.  I know you were talking
about making your own beats from scratch but this Sonar feature is useful as
it gives you a pretty decent range of drum patterns that you can customize
at will.
 
Check out Omar Binno's site and listen to the beats he's been cooking up.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Stacy
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 

From: HYPERLINK "mailto:jdaubenm@xxxxxxxxx"Justin Daubenmire 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] accessible drum machine

All,
 
I am checking out sonar 6 and had a question for creating my own drum beats.
 
I used to have an Alesis HR-16B drum machine that had around 30 drum kits in
it and it had 16 programmable pads. You can make the pads be whatever you
wanted
such as kick, snare, high hat, crashes, etc. Then it let you hit the pads
and create your own beats via a sequence click. It would record your beats
for you as a pattern.
You could record, for example, 4 or 5 patterns then copy/paste them in the
order you wanted and save it as a song. I.E intro, verse
1, chorus, bridge, etc.

Does anyone know of any accessible drum machine software that would let me
do this?  I'd like to do this on the computer now and not use an external
drum machine since I am sure it is possible, however, I cannot seem to find
any accessible software package to accomplish this task.
 
Ideally I would like to have a drum machine software package totally outside
of sonar and create my beats for my songs outside of sonar then port them
into sonar as a track. However, I am not all that familiar with sonar yet as
I am just investigating it so if it is possible to do this within sonar
using drum kits please let me know. Any feedback much appreciated.

What I do not want is premixed/created drum beats that I can use as a track.
I want to be able to totally create my own beats using different drum kits.
That is very important for me to be able to say, for example, use this kick,
that snare, this ride, and make/record my own beats from scratch.
 
thanks for any feedback/help!


Regards,
Justin


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007
11:40 AM



No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007
3:03 PM
 

Other related posts:

  • » [ddots-l] Re: MIDI Controller for accessible drum machine (Session Drummer)