[ddots-l] Re: Making sonar do a live loop pedal?

  • From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:52:28 -0000

Hey John!

Roland/Boss make several quote looping quote pedals, but I don't know just how accessible they are...

The way you'd do it in Sonar, unless you can very quickly switch to separate trax, arm them, and also un arm the previous track, is a bit of a problem though!

The thing with the looping pedals is, that you can record multiple instances, you know, stack up the buggers 'til you're blue in the face, and you can also disable the takes you don't want happening, whenever you want, and whittle the whole event down, 'til you're back with your original take...

You could, of course, use Sonar in overdub mode, whilst the loop function is activated, but it would be virtually impossible to disable/mute say, take 2 &3, and be left with your original take and just , for instance, a basic flute riff.

You can also, with the looping pedal, record vocal trax, so, all in all, its a much cleaner/organized way of working...

Mike


----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schucker" <gwynn@xxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Making sonar do a live loop pedal?


A friend of mine suggested I get a looping pedal. As I understand it, you push it down and it records whatever you're playing, let up on it and it'll start looping it. Or maybe it's the other way around, I've never messed with one. Anyway, it sounds pretty interesting. But in the interest of not spending money, since I want to upgrade sonar and caketalking as soon as I can, can you do this in Sonar, as a live effect, and if so, how?

I know you could probably do it as split tracks, e.g. record one loop on a track and have it loop, record another loop on another track and so on, and play over those. But I think it would be more interesting to play against it live if possible, so you could do loops on the fly. Maybe the tranzport and a foot pedal? Set the pedal up to do loop on and off?

Speaking of which, assuming the tranzport idea would work, would I have to get a pedal from Frontier or could I just use the sustain pedal from my keyboard? Oh and obviously I'd want to record all of this too. So let's say for instance, we have my friend on guitar, and then me playing a flute. I do a loop section, that starts looping, then I play flute overtop of that loop as well, and maybe add in new parts to the loop. I'm sort of guessing at how a looping pedal would work. But I know if it was a hardware pedal, sonar would record all of that input. So I want to do that if I can make it work in software too, of course. Hopefully somebody's actually used a looping pedal and can tell me about it all, heh. Oh and if the answer is, sure you can do it but it would be tons easier with a midi controller to control the effects and such, feel free to tell me that too, that's exactly the kind of stuff I want to know.

Right now I just have the tranzport and a cheap keyboard acting as a midi controller, no pitch wheel or drum pads or anything. It was on sale somewhere and I got it just to learn on. Anyway, I really appreciate all the help I've gotten on the list so far.
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